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Ted Cruz is not eligible to become president
Sacramento Bee ^ | 1/15/2016 | Tony Quinn

Posted on 01/16/2016 3:02:27 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz was born in Canada; he is not a "natural born citizen," and he is not eligible to be president.

And this is an issue that isn't going away, contrary to The Sacramento Bee's assertion, ("Trump's 'birther' lunacy, the sequel," Editorials, Jan. 7)

The Constitution is very precise: "No person except a natural born citizen ... shall be eligible to the office of President." The founders knew what they meant.

John Jay, later the first chief justice of the United States, wrote: "the commander in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born citizen." Later, one of the authors of the 14th Amendment, Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, wrote: "Who are natural born citizens but those born within the Republic?"

Congress has passed a statute that says if one of your parents is a U.S. citizen, you are an American citizen, too, no matter where you were born. Cruz's mother was born in Delaware. That makes him a "citizen" by statute, but not a "natural born citizen" within the meaning of the Constitution.

If both of Cruz's parents had been American-born, Cruz would have a stronger case. However, his father was born in Cuba.

Every other president and presidential candidate in our history was born either within the United States or one of its possessions. At no time ever was Calgary, Canada, where Cruz was born in 1970, a U.S. possession.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bfac; cruz; cruznoteligible; desperation; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; trump
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

It doesn’t matter if Cruz (or whoever) is a natural born citizen. There is simply no way to enforce this particular clause through the court system. Such scenario have been played many times with the current President. If you sue Cruz before him being elected President, you have no standing. If you do it after that (when majority of electorate votes for him), you’ll find no judge (SCOTUS included) willing to overturn the will of the people. It is a waste of time, in my opinion, and a waste of bandwidth...


161 posted on 01/16/2016 5:20:32 PM PST by exinnj
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To: chris37

At least the state SOS should do his job and actually determine their eligibility when they file.
The requirements are very simple. It’s cost less thana hundred bucks per candidate- even at government prices.


162 posted on 01/16/2016 5:21:22 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: goldstategop
If you think archaic 18th Century wording should disqualify an American born in Calgary from running for President, its stupid.

Yeah, those founders were a bunch of nose-picking retards. Everybody knows it's a "living breathing document".

Why can he be a loyal Senator or Congressman but not President?

Barack Obama.

163 posted on 01/16/2016 5:23:47 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: miss marmelstein

My husband is a student of the Civil War, and he got me hooked on Gettysburg. Been there about six times now. It gets to you every time even if you think it won’t. That’s why I got so pissed off about the Confederate Flag thing. OMG, I even called the Mayor of Gettysburg and gave him the what-for for about 40 minutes.


164 posted on 01/16/2016 5:23:51 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: Cboldt

Notice I suggested he might get on the legal team to support his side (someone has to be on loosing side ). Daddy as a lawyer taught me not to argue with __________ Let them expose themselves completely in front of knowledgable people So you encourage them -— point in the direction of humiliation
IT probably is a good idea to give Jim the heads up. information


165 posted on 01/16/2016 5:24:40 PM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; All

Yep the Establishment/GOPe knows this....., and that is why they are pushing Cruz.

Then once they have Trump knocked off, then they will Judge shop with the DNC to disqualify Cruz based on where he was born.

Wake up Cruz supporters. You are being set up by the Establishment and the GOPe. They hate Cruz as much as Trump if not more.


166 posted on 01/16/2016 5:26:33 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“Yeah, those founders were a bunch of nose-picking retards. Everybody knows it’s a “living breathing document”.”

Yes, this thing. My goodness, after seven years of toil I am ‘bout worn out. But my devotion to the country, to the Constitution, will give ME no peace. That churlish people today would even THINK this:

“If you think archaic 18th Century wording should disqualify an American born in Calgary from running for President, its stupid.”

My God.


167 posted on 01/16/2016 5:28:30 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

I hope some people start brining lawsuits challenging trumps natural born citizen status.


168 posted on 01/16/2016 5:28:46 PM PST by csivils
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To: exinnj

Yeah, except everything you described only applies to democrats. A conservative Republican is fair game, with a red lazer-dot on his forehead.


169 posted on 01/16/2016 5:29:29 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Ladysforest

Good for you! BTW, I got the last Confederate flag out of Amazon and display it proudly in my house. My American flag is displayed outside.

Gettysburg is beautiful and moving. Last year, we did Antietam and Gettysburg. I flipped out over that beautiful West Maryland town (Sharpsburg) and battlefield. Walked into Dunker Church and stood in Bloody Lane. What does Nikkie Haley know about this? Obviously, nothing. Ill-educated dolt.


170 posted on 01/16/2016 5:29:52 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard then Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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To: csivils

How would they do that? Born here to US citizen parents.


171 posted on 01/16/2016 5:31:41 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: thecodont
Amen,What gets me with Cruz is he was Canadian citizen until 15 months ago.Just found that out. Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump Ted Cruz was born in Canada and was a Canadian citizen until 15 months ago. Lawsuits have just been filed with more to follow. I told you so
172 posted on 01/16/2016 5:34:01 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: hoosiermama; The All Knowing All Seeing Oz
I didn't think you'd fall for it, but Oz is fairly prolific poster, somewhat persuasive, etc. I don't mind that coming from a person who doesn't know better. Ignorant (not belittling, we all are in many ways) people should be allowed to freely explore and make mistakes. But I have zero tolerance for willful misrepresentation. That is poison. This is not a practical joke sort of issue.

Here in forum people are exposed to both sides okay, but the lying side is known to seek overwhelming volume by numbers of posters and posts - run with me, I'm in the herd.

I figure a public post Cc: Oz creates some tension. I'll likely be called a liar and disruptor, wrong, etc.

Jim will handle things fine. The issue may burn out without an admission from Cruz, or it might resolve with a coming clean (doubtful). I don't see any need to rat Oz out any more than I already have.

173 posted on 01/16/2016 5:34:36 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

See #44.


174 posted on 01/16/2016 5:40:35 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: fatima

Yes. How would his U.S. Senate campaign have gotten off the ground if the Canadian citizenship issue were common knowledge?

While we’re on the subject: Let’s review how BO went from State Senator (eligibility issues reviewed?) to U.S. Senator (eligibility issues reviewed?) to POTUS? At least one gate out of those three should have shut him out. BO openly declared his father was a British subject at the time of his birth (British East Africa a.k.a. Kenya), thus making BO a dual citizen (if we are to believe the HI birth story). So would a dual citizen of the UK and the U.S. even be eligible for State Senator?


175 posted on 01/16/2016 5:41:54 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Cboldt

Will send an email soon


176 posted on 01/16/2016 5:42:41 PM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans)
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To: Cboldt
Please allow me to redirect these questions to you:

Who, of the horde of candidates is not on the ballot in all 50 states?

And why are they still being allowed to be muck up the debates?

177 posted on 01/16/2016 5:44:00 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: goldstategop
If you think archaic 18th Century wording should disqualify an American born in Calgary from running for President, its stupid.

Actually, that statement makes you a member of "the Constitution is a living document" club, along with the Democrats and the "progressives".

178 posted on 01/16/2016 5:44:37 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: thecodont

You make a good point thecodont.


179 posted on 01/16/2016 5:54:23 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: BillM

What alerted your sister to the loss of her Canadian citizenship?


180 posted on 01/16/2016 5:55:29 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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