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To: FlingWingFlyer

Unless someone can produce naturalization paperwork that made him a citizen later in his life, he’s natural born. An American mother who made him an American from day 1. If he was solely a Canadian citizen and then filed to become naturalized American later, then we ‘might’ have an issue to discuss.


8 posted on 01/14/2016 6:06:24 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: ilgipper
Unless someone can produce naturalization paperwork that made him a citizen later in his life, he’s natural born

If Congress has to pass legislation in order to make you a citizen at birth, then, by definition, you are naturalized, and are not a "natural born citizen." NBCs are what they are by nature, by birth. Cruz is not a natural born citizen.

12 posted on 01/14/2016 6:07:54 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: ilgipper

“Unless someone can produce naturalization paperwork that made him a citizen later in his life, he’s natural born”

Cruz is a natural born citizen of Canada.

To obtain his US citizenship he had to file paperwork, pay a fee and go through a process.

He only became a US citizen after this process was completed. It’s unclear when he did this but it was likely many years after he was born, when his family decided to move to the US.

There is paperwork for all of this and we’ll see it sooner or later.


24 posted on 01/14/2016 6:15:28 AM PST by Helicondelta
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To: ilgipper

he was born in a foreign country to a foreign father. He’s not a NBC by any stretch. He’s a citizen.


26 posted on 01/14/2016 6:15:36 AM PST by RC one (race baiting and demagoguery-if you're a Democrat it's what you do.)
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To: ilgipper
Here you go, prior to this 1934 "naturalization act" Ted Cruz would not even be considered a citizen of these United States. He clearly does not meet the original intent of the founders when they added the NBC clause to out constitution.

THE "CITIZENSHIP ACT OF 1934": On 24 May, Congress makes a major change to the "citizenship law" to now enable U.S. citizen mothers to also transmit U.S. citizenship at birth abroad. But for the first time the law now also creates a new burden by imposing a mandatory "subsequent five year residence requirement" in the United States, prior to reaching age eighteen, and an "oath of allegiance requirement" within six months of the child's twenty-first birthday, for any child born abroad to parents, one of whom is an alien. The new law states

Actual Text from 1934

Any child hereafter born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, whose father or mother or both at the time of birth of such child is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States: but the rights of citizenship shall not descend to any such child unless the citizen father or citizen mother, as the case may be, has resided in the United States previous to the birth of such child. In cases where one of the parents is an alien, the right of citizenship shall not descend unless the child comes to the United States and resides therein for at least five years continuously immediately previous to his eighteenth birthday, and unless, within six months after the child's twenty-first birthday, he or she shall take an oath of allegiance to the United States of America as prescribed by the Bureau of Naturalization." (Section 1, 48 Stat. 797.)

56 posted on 01/14/2016 6:31:42 AM PST by jpsb (Whar)
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To: ilgipper

Unless someone can produce naturalization paperwork that made him a citizen later in his life, he’s natural born. An American mother who made him an American from day 1. If he was solely a Canadian citizen and then filed to become naturalized American later, then we ‘might’ have an issue to discuss.


Please don’t flame..I have a simple question to ask.

Can a Natural Born Citizen have dual citizenship at birth?

I did some research, and if he can, I sure couldn’t find it..thanks.


132 posted on 01/14/2016 7:11:09 AM PST by AFret.
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To: ilgipper
Unless someone can produce naturalization paperwork that made him a citizen later in his life, he’s natural born. An American mother who made him an American from day 1. If he was solely a Canadian citizen and then filed to become naturalized American later, then we ‘might’ have an issue to discuss.

Exactly. If you are naturalized there is paperwork making you a citizen. if Cruz is a citizen because he was born to an American Citizen then he is not Naturalized.

166 posted on 01/14/2016 7:45:27 AM PST by commish (The takers rule. Time to implement the triple G plan - GOD, GUNS, & GOLD)
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To: ilgipper

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>> “Unless someone can produce naturalization paperwork that made him a citizen later in his life, he’s natural born” <<

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Yes, this is the salient point in this Trolling game, and one that all the spammers seem to miss.

Without such documentation, no court can even accept a case.

The Trumpets get crazier every day.


220 posted on 01/14/2016 11:55:01 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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