Ditto Class of 59.............
Posted on 01/07/2016 10:40:49 AM PST by QT3.14
Navy Secretary Ray Mabus has given Marine Corps brass two weeks to submit a plan to train male and female recruits together at boot camp and fully integrate officer candidate school.
He's also calling for the Marines to make all job titles gender-neutral as the service opens currently closed ground combat jobs to women.
In a Jan. 1 memo obtained by Military.com and first reported by Marine Corps Times, Mabus ordered the Corps to send him a detailed plan by Jan. 15 for making boot camp and officer training coed. He also requested that the Marines provide him with a "subject matter expert" on the issue. The plan should identify where training is already integrated by gender, where it is separate, and how the Marines will work to fully integrate all training, Mabus said.
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From wiki . . .
Raymond Edwin "Ray" Mabus, Jr. is an American politician and member of the Democratic Party. Mabus previously served as the State Auditor of Mississippi from 1984 to 1988, as the 59th Governor of Mississippi from 1988 to 1992 and as the United States Ambassador to Saudi Arabia from 1994 to 1996.
On January 1st, 2016, Mabus ordered the United States Marine Corps to devise a plan on co-integration of male and female recruits in basic training. Giving top brass a two week planning period, along with requesting a subject matter expert, to report the best method of said plan.
This plan will single-handedly make Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus the most politically-correct, and militarily inept human being in the history of the United States, as well as destroying military cohesiveness and professionalism in the name of a socially progressive (nurture over nature) political agenda
“Thank God I served back in the sixties and seventies when we still had military leaders with backbone.”
When I enlisted in ‘93 Slick Willy had just enacted don’t ask don’t tell. So recently, in fact, that the sexuality question was still on the enlistment questionnaire, and the recruiter had simply lined it out.
I answered it, and also lined out my answer.
It would be an act of war. The UN will always protect try to protect the enemies of the U.S.
It’s OK to Obama if the United States becomes so weak it can’t defend itself. He’s got plenty of friends overseas who can give him refuge.
“The Navy Secretary also sounded a warning note to Neller about a list of “critical information requirements” the Corps included in the integration plan submitted to Carter this month.
That list of developments to be monitored closely include:
—Indications of decreased combat readiness or effectiveness;
—Indications of increased risk to Marines in previously closed units, including incidents of sexual assault and harassment, and hazing;
—Indications of a lack of career viability for female Marines in newly opened ground combat jobs;
—Indications that Marine commands and culture is unreceptive to the inclusion of women in ground combat units; and
—Indications that moral or cohesion is degrading in newly opened units.
None of those potential problems should serve to hinder the rollout of the new integration policy, Mabus said.
“As the Marine Corps adds elements such as the leadership plan that includes the goals of female leadership teams, cohesive cohorts, and mentors, I expect you will ensure that a worthwhile goal does not unreasonably delay or prevent the execution of a policy imperative,” he wrote.”
No wonder Mattis was unceremoniously canned...
One of his quotes:
In regards to keeping the Corps unified:
“In this age, I don’t care how tactically or operationally brilliant you are, if you cannot create harmony - even vicious harmony - on the battlefield based on trust across service lines, across coalition and national lines, and across civilian/military lines, you need to go home, because your leadership is obsolete. We have got to have officers who can create harmony across all those lines.”
I think the TOP leader and SecNav need to go home.
Semper Fi, General!
They really do want to finish off our military in Obama’s final term and this is part of the completion.
Why doesn’t he just introduce full mockery and insanity and turn the new co-ed training into an MTV-type reality show.
Chesty Puller is turning over in his grave.
Isn’t it November yet?
On 20 November 1943, during the horrific fighting on Betio atoll during the battle of Tarawa, two Japanese tanks mounted a counterattack against the fragile Marine toehold on Red Beach 3. The Marines were huddled there at the base of a seawall in the face of withering fire from the rikusentai of Admiral Keiji Shibasaki’s fanatical Japanese Naval Landing Force defenders who were slaughtering hundreds of their 2nd Marine Division comrades in Betio Lagoon during 76 hours of some of the most savage fighting in the history not only of the Marines, but the US armed forces.
Marine anti-tank gun crews were trying to figure out how to get their 912 lb 37MM M3 antitank guns over the 7 foot plus seawall. The battery commander ordered his 5 man crews to LIFT them over. Being Marines who always obeyed even seemingly impossible orders, they did EXACTLY that and promptly knocked out the tanks. They then engaged several enemy bunkers whose dual purpose guns were repeatedly knocking out the approaching landing craft and put them out of action. Finally they routed a local counter attack of 200 or so Japanese against the south shore of Red Beach 3 with canister shot, all of this at a critical and precarious point in the landing.
Whats that about upper body strength being not as important
in modern warfare anymore and that women are just as likely to be able to do the job of combat infantry?
Familiarize your self with the case of Merril’s Marauders in WWII in the China Burma India Theatre. From Feb-May of 1944, the men of “Galahad Force†were subjected to the most grueling long term commitment probably of ANY US combat unit in history. They were tasked with a long range deep penetration operation. At the end of it, almost every man was wracked by dysentery, malaria, scrub typhus, cholera, and any number of debilitating diseases that sapped their strength to far below whatever it was when they began the operation. Their mission had been extended and lengthened several times, and their debilitated condition was not deemed sufficient to allow them relief.
I fear we are losing the institutional memory of having faced enemies that are capable of defeating us on the battlefield. We have not faced such an enemy since the summer/winter of 1950 on the Korean Peninsula. The names of Task Force Smith, the 1st Battles of Taejon and Seoul, the Pusan perimeter the ambush of the 2nd Infantry Division at Kunu-Ri and the 80 mile withdrawal from the Chosen resovoir seem but distant memories. The cultural marxists now in charge of the Obama administration are indulging in the sort of social experimentation SURE to result in defeat or serious setback against an enemy capable of projecting the sort of battle field power that would lead to the battlefield reverses that the US Armed Forces suffered at Kasserine Pass, the Hurtegen Forest, the Rapido River the US Strategic Bombing Campaign, the 1st Naval Battle of Guadalcanal, (Savo Island) or the Rangers at Cisterna in Italy.
I mean no disrespect to the female perssonnel of the US Armed Forces who have served and ARE serving their nation honorably and well. I respect them as fellow vets and comrades in arms. Policy decisions are above their level for the most part.
But as a matter of POLICY, I think that women should be excluded from the armed forces for the most part, with a few exceptions and COMPLETELY from combat and most combat support roles, particularly when the armed forces are a small percentage of the total population, as is the case now. The use of significant numbers of women should be reserved for large scale mobilization as was the case in WWII. The population base is more than twice as large now as then and there would be no problem securing a sufficient number of qualified men with appropriate incentives for such a relatively small armed forces.
The advantages for the armed forces, particularly the Army would be greater flexibility as to how personnel can be deployed in combat emergencies and other contingincies and a lesser logistical strain as involves clothing, barracks and housing, and innumerable other considerations that are exclusive to the maintainance of large numbers of women. I think morale and discipline would also be improved as well.
The courts have repeatedly ruled that the armed forces are exempted from many of the equal opportunity requirements of the civillian world, and for the very good and sufficient requirements that are unique to the armed forces. This contretemps is being propelled largely by the cultural marxist wing of gender equity feminism who wish for the placement of a leftist Chairwoman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The resultant detriment of the ability of the armed forces to fight plays no consideration in their calculus, other than as an peripheral side benefit.
I know that women have played a vital role during guerrilla, partisan warfare and sabatoge/espionage activity. But to deliberately employ them in ground combat units whose primary task is to close with, engage and destroy similar enemy units is the height of lunacy and madness given the effort required to identify the relative few who could qualify even if we ignore the potential detriments to morale and discipline.
This is sheer and utter madness akin to allowing open homosexuals to serve in the armed forces. Oh has that happened too???
Can I get a re-do on Boot Camp?? PLz!!
No more Series Honorman or Series HonorWoman I reckon..
How about Series HonorWonkPerson?
And you thought Starship Troopers was just a movie. ;-/
I was in Millington winter of ‘72.. Cold, ice storms, not a fun place then. More cockroaches that ya can count with an abacus. I was in Avionics training.. Got moved to another Navy school in California after 2 months, spring sprang.
I vaguely remember turning 18 and then drinking French Revolutions at the downtown Memphis Holiday INn bar&lounge.
Dated a Navy gal a couple times, never dated a Marine.
Ditto Class of 59.............
It will never work.
They won’t be able to fit all the male recruits into the women’s showers!
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Mabus is the chief idiot. Even disregarding the obscenity of his objective, to require a plan of this magnitude be delivered within two weeks is absurd. While it is often said that the military has contingency plans to invade anywhere, I’m not sure they have one for this.
Semper Fi ... we won’t forget.
Seven, going on eight years, of surrealism under this delusional ideologue. Clocks melting from tables, like Dali’s paintings. Hopeless changes. Can’t wait for restoration to begin - SOON.
‘Hollywood’ Marine, eh?................
“Coed boot camp? I’m 69, is that too old re-enlist?”
You, too, must remember standing in line for physicals, wearing only your boxers with your recruit number written on your chest in black grease pencil. “Belly-button to a**hole”.
“Port side, you have two minutes to make a head call. Stand by. Ready.... do it!”
Who is the guy with the C Cap on?
“Absolute insanity says this Paris Island alumni, class of 69 :)”
I agree completely - Platoon 300, Jan-March ‘69
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