Posted on 01/06/2016 12:14:41 PM PST by springwater13
During the White House press briefing this afternoon, one reporter explained the fight between Cruz and Trump and asked if the president was enjoying the drama around Cruz's citizenship.
"I don't know if he does, but I sure do," Earnest quipped as reporters chuckled in response.
Earnest then seemed willing to feed the narrative questioning Cruz's citizenship.
"It would be quite ironic if after 7 or 8 years of drama around the president’s birth certificate if Republican primary voters were to choose Senator Cruz as their nominee," he said. "Somebody who actually wasn’t born in the United States and only 15 months ago renounced his Canadian citizenship."
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Them too.
No,, I want Trump to sue him, with the 2 of them understanding that this would FINALLY provide a legal setting wherein the facts regarding Obama’s eligibility and all the crimes committed to hide his ineligibility could be exposed, once and for all.
Those facts would blow any dem out of the water, and would possibly create a situation where any US Senator who didn’t immediately convict Obama of treason would be recognized immediately as a traitor themselves.
This could change EVERYTHING, if these 2 guys have the courage to put their own ambitions on hold, and if their supporters have the wisdom to fight for AMERICA moreso than for their scorched-earth desire for it to be “their way or the highway”. I hate politics. I see the crap that goes on between parties here, who should be standing together instead of circular firing squads, and it makes me think we’ve already lost this nation because those who could stand together and fight the real enemy would rather play politics. spit.
I don’t know if Cruz is eligible or not. We could stand to have some answers. But this situation is the PERFECT set-up for all the crap Obama has dished out to all of us to be seen for what it is. It is a chance to prove to the public - to legal standards - that Obama is the puppet of our enemies, illegally put into office through the crimes of our enemies in critical positions, taking the whole system hostage. That knowledge could turn everything around.
What I suspect - partly based on what Iran and North Korea are doing now and partly based on Obama saying in July of 2008 that he would be President for the next 8-10 years - is that Obama’s terrorist buddies are planning to make their move to establish the caliphate here before either Trump or Cruz can either be elected or be inaugurated. I suspect that they’re not worrying about either Trump or Cruz because they know an EMP attack or something similar will prevent either of those guys from ever taking office.
That is, unless something happens to wake up the public BEFORE everything is all ready. Trump and Cruz working together on this to confront the real enemy and expose him while there is still a chance to de-fang him and throw him in Gitmo could be the last chance we have.
Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock
A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be the genetic or the gestational parent and the legal parent of the child under local law at the time and place of the child’s birth to transmit U.S. citizenship.
Going to 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA)
D. Application for Certificate of Citizenship (Form N-600)
A person born abroad who acquires U.S. citizenship at birth is not required to file an Application for Certificate of Citizenship (Form N-600). A person who seeks documentation of such status, however, must submit an application to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship from USCIS. A person may also apply for a U.S. Passport with the Department of State to serve as evidence of his or her U.S. citizenship. [14] See 8 CFR 341.1. The Secretary of State has jurisdiction over claims of U.S. citizenship made by persons who are abroad, and the Secretary of Homeland Security has jurisdiction over the administration and enforcement of the INA within the United States. See INA 103(a)(1) and INA 104(a)(3). There is nothing precluding USCIS from accepting a Form N-600 filed under INA 301 or INA 309 by a person who does not live in the United States. See INA 341(a).
Trump has no standing to sue. He has suffered no damages.
I’m not hung up on that form. The documentation would have been needed to be shown at some point. I was using the existence of the form to demonstrate the kind of documentation that would be needed. In researching this for this thread I have come across sites for consulates in many countries all saying the same thing: children born abroad to US citizens need to prove their right to be considered American at birth. This can be done sooner or later but would need to be done one way or another. Hopefully we are just spinning our wheels and Ted has it all handled.
Once Cruz gets primary votes Trump would have suffered damages.
As soon as Cruz wins IA Trump should sue, and the 2 top-runners should work together to get both a Constitutional ruling AND the truth of whether a foreign-born “President” has already established precedent here.
The crimes that put Obama into office are WAY overdue to be exposed, and if/when Trump and/or Cruz are granted discovery, whistleblowers will need to be the first to come out of the woodwork because the truth will out and those who tell the truth last will be the first ones strung up and hanged until dead.
No, because there is no proof they would have gone to Trump. If Cruz wins the nomination then Trump may - may - have standing to sue because he might be able to show that he would have been the nominee had Cruz not been there. But even then with all the other candidates in the race that would be hard to prove.
Your poorly thought out Post implies that you are convinced that there is no distinction between a ‘citizen’ and a ‘natural born citizen.’
Obama ... the Birther.
Maybe trump can make Obama his vp as they seem to be kindred spirits.
You’re giving the same nonsense that allowed the media and courts to say that there will never, ever be anybody who ever has standing to sue over this.
I bet you every last dime I have that the same arguments would not have legal sway if Hillary likewise has no way to prove that the votes would have gone to her. There’s no way you can prove a “would have”. If that is required, then the Constitution’s Article II is unconstitutional because it is not enforceable.
No rules for Democrats
No guilt for Democrats
Ted’s wife is not bad either.
She was kind enough to wish my wife Happy Birthday last year. Classy people.
Also, if he can’t prove that he suffered the loss of IA delegates then he could never prove that he had lost any other delegates either - and thus could never prove that he would have been the nominee if Cruz was out.
IOW, what you’re saying is that there is nobody who could ever prove that they were damaged by an ineligible candidate winning anything.
Is that what you’re saying? How could Trump prove that he lost too many national delegates to an ineligible candidate if he can never prove he lost even one state’s delegates?
The courts did identify one person who had the standing to sue, John McCain. He chose not to.
I bet you every last dime I have that the same arguments would not have legal sway if Hillary likewise has no way to prove that the votes would have gone to her.
If Cruz beats Clinton for the presidency in November then she would have standing to sue. But the courts will certainly find that Ted Cruz is eligible to be president.
If that is required, then the Constitution’s Article II is unconstitutional because it is not enforceable.
How can the Constitution be unconstitutional?
The courts did identify one person who had the standing to sue, John McCain. He chose not to.
I bet you every last dime I have that the same arguments would not have legal sway if Hillary likewise has no way to prove that the votes would have gone to her.
If Cruz beats Clinton for the presidency in November then she would have standing to sue. But the courts will certainly find that Ted Cruz is eligible to be president.
If that is required, then the Constitution’s Article II is unconstitutional because it is not enforceable.
How can the Constitution be unconstitutional?
Hmmm. We have Trump an 0bama on one side and Cruz, Levin, and Limbaugh on the other.
Which do you think is the conservative, constitutionalist side?
IIRC Alan Keyes was denied standing because it was said that his percentage of votes was so small that he could never have gotten any delegates anyway. If that is the legal mind-reading that is set as precedent for who has standing, then Trump should have NO trouble establishing standing, unless he gets something like 2% of the vote.
Or does the legal reasoning change if there’s actually a possibility that Article II could be enforceable?
“Wasn’t Trump ASKED about this situation and essentially told Cruz he needs to clear it up soon...â€
A couple of months ago, Trump said it was a non-issue. That is the problem with Trump. If he says one thing in September, he’ll feel free to say the opposite in January. So if he becomes the President, which Trump will be in office? The one who liked Hillary and Obama, or the one who says he is a conservative?
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Hey Trump-hater...Trump never said Cruz’ citizenship was a non-issue. He did say months ago that Cruz needed to get it worked out...that it could be a problem. Trump has an ACE-IN-THE-HOLE...and it is the time to use it!!!
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