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Cruz calls Rubio "an unusually good liar"
The Washington Times ^ | December 21, 2015 | Ted Constantine

Posted on 12/31/2015 12:42:15 PM PST by TBP

“Senator Rubio looks in the TV cameras and says things he knows are absolutely false.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; canadian; cruz; cruzlied; dondi2016; election2016; florida; ibtz; ineligible; liar; marcorubio; rubio; sleepertroll; tedcruz; texas
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To: BfloGuy

Saying that he’s afraid of Trumps finger on the button was not exactly the high road. I guess Cruz doesn’t mind Hillary’s or Obama’s finger on the nuclear button.


161 posted on 01/01/2016 5:57:17 AM PST by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: Reno89519

“...like Cruz supporting 500% increase in H1B until just a few weeks ago...”

Well for one thing, the nation *does* need legal H1B visa’s for the tech industry because American kids are stuck-on-stupid majoring in something like “non-profit-clothing-design” or “transnational-gender-equality-studies” and their supposedly American parents support them!! Somewhere in each of our extended families, we likely have one or more kids committing suicide with their (and our) futures doing this same crap.

So there are a crap-ton of *needed* H1B visa’s working in the tech sector and they are most certainly *not* day-labor cheap. The contracts I’ve worked on do not specify a different pay-scale for H1B vs US Citizen and the H1B’s are about as evenly skilled and capable as their US Citizen colleagues. My biggest prob working with them is the language barrier, not their work ethic or skills. That’s just my personal, first-hand observation.

So, if we want to eliminate H1B’s, we will have to slowly wean the tech sector off them by taking some personal responsibility and firmly guiding our children onto learning paths that are actually in demand that can replace the need for H1B’s AND away from the current trend towards a four-year college “adult-day-care” program which tends to render the rest of their adult life on welfare, blogging at the local coffee shop where they can mooch free WiFi.

Don’t vote for Cruz if you don’t like him for whatever reason you may have. There are things about each candidate that are anywhere from unattractive-to-detestable in a given person’s eyes and that goes for everyone from Trump on down. But you should also refrain from dinging any candidate on a topic until you have a solid understanding of the topic. Don’t just parrot some news headline or article you read somewhere because you then risk allowing the media to use you to further *their* narrative.


162 posted on 01/01/2016 6:06:41 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: Godebert

Oh, I totally agree with you. The 14th Amendment is being abused and I don’t believe it makes Rubio a natural born citizen anymore than Cruz is.


163 posted on 01/01/2016 6:28:26 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: biff

“I AM NOT WHINING YOU NIMROD!

I swear the quality of FR folks have changed dramatically since the 90’s. They absolutely cannot have a discussion about anything.”


164 posted on 01/01/2016 6:30:40 AM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: House Atreides; All; jimrob
Well folks, how about stopping the anti-Cruz and anti-Trump war. The first three posts here are either against Cruz or against Trump. We’re all in this together against the RINO establishment...we should save our ammunition for THEIR candidates, not ours.

**** BUMP **** !!!

ABSOLUTELY!

This continual bickering between pro-Cruz and pro-Trump factions has got to end because it does the work of the GOPe and the 'RATS and they don't even have to lift a finger. (except their middle finger which is always raised to conservatives)

If FReepers want to make (and keep) a truly excellent New Year's Resolution, it would be to refrain from attacking the two leading candidates for the Republican nomination. As my tagline says, it's Trump or Cruz and our Esteemed Founder has said that more than once.

I've pointed out many times that I was supporting Cruz before Trump entered the race, and I like them both, Trump has in fact plowed the field by taking the heat off of Cruz in these early months, forcing the libtard media and the 'RAT-GOPe UniParty to attack him more than Cruz. That's a good thing.

If Trump accomplishes only one other thing between here and the convention, which is to permanently drive out Jebuardo Bush, he will have done us all a great service for which we should be grateful.

You won't see me posting anything negative about Ted Cruz, and I encourage his supporters to reciprocate. We need to beat the 'RATS and a circular firing squad isn't the way to do it.
165 posted on 01/01/2016 6:49:11 AM PST by mkjessup (JimRob: "It's Trump or Cruz, all the others are amnesty pimps" And the man is RIGHT!)
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To: proust
Donate whatever you can! Goldman-Sachs needs your money!

So support the ultimate crony capitalist instead.

Hypocrite.

166 posted on 01/01/2016 6:51:02 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Revenge is a Daesh best served cold.)
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To: xzins
She will not need to use it against either one of the ineligibles. They will not be in the running.

US born Trumps mom naturalized prior to Donalds birth, not 35 years later.

I will go with the founding fathers understood meaning.

167 posted on 01/01/2016 6:52:55 AM PST by ASA Vet (98C40K3)
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To: jaydee770

You are way off base. I work in IT for the past nearly 35 years and can tell you without any hesitation that there is absolutely no shortage of Americans for IT jobs in the US and there is absolutely no need for any H1B. H1B is simply a way to suppress wages by importing cheap foreign labor.


168 posted on 01/01/2016 6:53:10 AM PST by Reno89519 (American Lives Matter! US Citizen, Veteran, Conservative, Republican. I vote. Trump 2016.)
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To: jaydee770

There is a shortage of IT workers in the USA the below market wages we want to pay. The laws of supply and demand are for you not for the establishment.


169 posted on 01/01/2016 6:58:49 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Reno89519; jaydee770
Amazes me that 'Cruzers' will use the "benefits" of the H-1B screw job on the American people to prop up Cruz.

That is like defending Hitler's Holocaust by pointing out that it opened up a lot of good real estate and lowered rents for the people.

170 posted on 01/01/2016 7:03:20 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Reno89519

States that use H-2 Guest Visa Worker Programs....

The problem with the system is that the H-2 workers who are coming in are NOT tied to actual, demonstrated labor shortages....rather ‘company heads’ are ‘abusing the system’ and laws.....many businesses go to ‘extraordinary lengths’ to skirt the law, deliberately denying jobs to American workers so they can hire foreign workers on H-2 visas instead....

Furtther when Americans actually get hired, they often are treated worse and paid less than foreign workers doing the same job, in order to drive the Americans to quit.

Stunningly these companies often do this with the complicity of government officials, records show. State and federal authorities have ‘allowed’ companies to violate the spirit — and often the letter — of the law with ‘bogus recruitment efforts’ that are clearly designed to keep Americans off the payroll.

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-12/2/13/enhanced/webdr14/enhanced-mid-2697-1449082222-6.jpg


171 posted on 01/01/2016 7:04:45 AM PST by caww
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To: Reno89519

Please provide proof.


172 posted on 01/01/2016 7:05:43 AM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: tennmountainman

They must have something on him...


173 posted on 01/01/2016 7:07:48 AM PST by Shady (We are at war again......this time for our lives...)
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To: jaydee770

There’s no fix to the HIB’S until you fix the Company heads “Abuse” of them...

Ted Cruz has addressed this time and again.....the problem isn’t the visas....it’s companies not following the laws established to hire American workers first by tactical loopholes they use to sidestep the law.....


174 posted on 01/01/2016 7:10:07 AM PST by caww
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To: Reno89519

I’m not way off base. I’ve been consulting in IT since the 90’s and working in IT well before then. My experience in the commercial and DOD sector shows piss-poor US college production into the tech sector compared to say, India. You aren’t going to find much in the way of “Womyns-Studies” in India.

If you have worked in IT as a consultant, you would be well aware that there is no compensation difference based on visa or no-visa, unless the company pays the frieght to bring the H1B on-board, in which case point the total cost to the organization is either a wash or a bit *more*. They are most certainly *not* cheap labor on the engagements I’ve worked. The compensation variables relate to skillset and project role.


175 posted on 01/01/2016 7:24:55 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: conservativejoy

176 posted on 01/01/2016 7:27:14 AM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: central_va

“...The laws of supply and demand are for you not for the establishment...”

The “law of supply & demand” is not referred to as “law” for nothing. If you have a passable understanding of the “law of supply & demand”, you would understand that it affects both the goods & services producer and the goods & services consumer accordingly.


177 posted on 01/01/2016 7:30:51 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: jaydee770
H-1B makes it worse. If we could end this sham wages would go up and Americans would go into STEM. But asswipes want to keep eating our seed corn.

You are what I would call a pimp, nothing more. Go away.

Go Trump, gp!

178 posted on 01/01/2016 7:31:30 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

“...That is like defending Hitler’s Holocaust ...”

Hyperbolic much?


179 posted on 01/01/2016 7:32:47 AM PST by jaydee770
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