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The Air Force will no longer fire three volley salutes at veteran funerals
Fox News ^ | December 24, 2015 | Fox News

Posted on 12/25/2015 1:37:09 AM PST by WhiskeyX

When a veteran or member of the armed forces dies, he or she is entitled to a ceremony that includes the presentation of a U.S. flag to a family member and a bugler blowing Taps. Most of the time, there is a three-volley rifle salute if requested by family members. But now, if the deceased served in the Air Force, the three-volley salute is not an option because the Air Force can no longer support riflemen for funeral services for veteran retirees.

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“To me, without the 21-gun salute, it just does not make it complete a proper military burial,” veteran Wayne Wakeman told Honolulu’s KHON 2 News. “I think because of sequestration or the lack of funds or whatever excuse they’re giving, that they had to hit the veterans.”

Wakeman is correct in supposing the cut is due to sequestration, the 2013 automatic federal spending cuts required by the Budget Control Act of 2011.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airforce; budget; funeral; funerals; rifle; riflemen; salute; salutes; usaf; usairforce; veteran; volley
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To: PubliusMM; All

PubliusMM wrote:
I’m betting that there are hundreds, even thousands, of military veterans who would be more than willing to answer this call to honor a fallen comrade.

When I see articles like this it amazes me how many folks don’t know about veteran service organizations and what they do.

If a vet belongs to a veteran service organization such as the American Legion, AMVETS, or the VFW and other gtoups there is no problem because most have an honor guard. Which is why vets should join one especially when they are getting on in years.

I have been to wakes where there was no one except a widow and a few friends then all of a sudden 21 guys show up in uniform and perform a service. You have no idea how good that makes the survivors feel.


21 posted on 12/25/2015 4:31:53 AM PST by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's because of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: ZULU

I wonder if next Obama will replace the 21 gun salute with someone chanting a Muslim prayer?


22 posted on 12/25/2015 4:53:11 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Call on the JRROTC at your local high schools...


23 posted on 12/25/2015 4:54:31 AM PST by chalkfarmer
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To: pepsionice

My step brother was laid to rest in Arlington in 65 and as coincidence would have it, our mutual friend and neighbor was part of the Marine color guard that day. It is burned in my memory.

My uncle with navy air service in the pacific in WW2 was laid to rest two years ago. The representatives used the recorded bugle message. When the lead NCO announced something about the President’s wishes, I thought my uncle would raise up and say not under this guy, I’ll wait.


24 posted on 12/25/2015 5:08:20 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: WhiskeyX

But, there’s plenty of money for free Obamaphones.


25 posted on 12/25/2015 5:17:08 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: WhiskeyX

This is what one gets with a liberal female as the Secretary of the USAF and the highest ranking officer of the USAF a female. As a former USAF Honor Guard member I think this is absolutely a disgrace.


26 posted on 12/25/2015 5:17:56 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: WhiskeyX

Since it is Christmas, I will refrain from telling 0bama to go and reproduce asexually.

5.56mm


27 posted on 12/25/2015 5:18:52 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: MountainYankee
Our American Legion Post will do it.

Yes, our Honor Guard too. 3 volleys, taps on the bugle, fold and present the flag, taps on the bugle, and we've done that on a moment's notice in some cases. Our chaplains will officiate if asked. We can even scare up a motorcycle escort if requested. Post, Auxiliary, Sons, and Riders, the American Legion family will step up. Dayum, it is a sacred honor to be a part of the final rites for a veteran. NO VETERAN should be laid to rest without FULL honors. SHAME ON THE AIR FORCE.

Now, about them pulling the Bible from the POW-MIA table at PAFB...

28 posted on 12/25/2015 5:20:57 AM PST by NonValueAdded (In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act)
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To: NonValueAdded

whoops, no echo taps, that was a typo. I will add that you do not need to be a Legionnaire to receive these honors. And if the family needs further assistance, there is a Service Officer ready to slice the red tape.


29 posted on 12/25/2015 5:27:56 AM PST by NonValueAdded (In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act)
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To: WhiskeyX

The wicked ways of the Clown in Chief All done by design!


30 posted on 12/25/2015 5:34:17 AM PST by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: WhiskeyX

The wicked ways of the Clown in Chief All done by design!


31 posted on 12/25/2015 5:34:52 AM PST by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Recall the “closing” of free-standing memorials by this administration. Expect more of this BS in Obomba’s last year.


32 posted on 12/25/2015 5:37:50 AM PST by Jumpmaster (AlGore has a large carbohydrate footprint!)
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To: WhiskeyX
What, in the heck, am I missing here?

When we buried my Dad there was an honor guard that fired the three volleys. It seems to me they used M-1s. None were active duty military i.e. they were, technically, volunteers.

It also seems to me there was a line item cost for it in the bottom line. It wasn't much...the cost of bullets (I have one of the shell casings) and a stipend for the members of the honor guard. The point is, family members paid the entire cost of the honor guard.

The more difficult task, in the long run, may be buglers to blow taps. I only know this by anecdote but have heard many military units don't use buglers these days. Some events enhanced by such use recordings.

33 posted on 12/25/2015 5:53:37 AM PST by stevem
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To: Typelouder
I, too, am an Air Force vet.

Is it only the USAF curtailing the salute?

As a Patriot Guard member, I think we could find personnel if allowed.

34 posted on 12/25/2015 6:01:12 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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To: Gaffer
They could cut out the maid service in the barracks and have the airmen do a proper field day...lol

The local Marine Corps League would render this service as would any Legion or VFW post.
35 posted on 12/25/2015 6:04:58 AM PST by major_gaff (University of Parris Island, Class of '84)
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To: WhiskeyX

Most veteran funeral salutes I’ve been to I
It has been volunteers doing the 3 round salute, even at national cemeteries, regardless of branch.


36 posted on 12/25/2015 6:06:54 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: MountainYankee

We have a group here called the Associated Veterans of Kern County Honor Guard which is comprised of retired veterans who are all volunteers and do funerals.


37 posted on 12/25/2015 6:09:05 AM PST by sheana
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To: WhiskeyX
The cost of this is not only chump change to FedGov, it is chump change's equivalent of coins that have fallen down under the couch cushions. They probably spend more on teaching the etiquette of using hand sanitizer at an Academy mandatory transgender awareness class. And how many 21-gun salutes would it take to equal just one - JUST ONE - of the First Lard-ass' AF1 vacation flights?

It's another deliberate slap in the face of the veterans and families that they can't be rid of fast enough. Bastards, all of them- and that includes the feckless, spineless GOP-e who can't manage to keep funding the former military, the present military or the future military, but somehow manages to subsidize any-and-all flat-out freeloaders (foreign and domestic) on a lifetime basis, along with making sure Tom Donohue & the USCofC continues to have a well-funded and doubtless very Merry Christmas.

Mr. niteowl77

38 posted on 12/25/2015 6:10:37 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: MarineBrat

To all the FReepers on this thread... the Three Shot Volley should not be confused with the 21 Gun Salute. They are two very different things.


39 posted on 12/25/2015 6:15:41 AM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: skr

My dad passed away two years ago and since it was in the middle of the government “shutdown”, Keesler couldn’t do it; the American Legion did and they did a wonderful job.


40 posted on 12/25/2015 6:20:33 AM PST by BamaDi ("The definition of a racist today is anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.")
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