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To: Kaslin; fieldmarshaldj; pabianice; Impy; GOPsterinMA; Bender2; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...
>> That's right -- I'm not seeing "Star Wars" <<

Yep. I've seen the first six and I'm indifferent about the new one.

First off, I've always been a Star Trek Man, not a Star Wars Man.

Second, the Star Wars fans themselves are the reason why I'm turned off from their franchise. I enjoyed the original trilogy in the 80s as the silly popcorn films they were. Cheesy escapist entertainment. But then the prequels came out and hearing the endless hype from "the fans" about how The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones were the MUST SEE movie of the year and "GWEATEST, M0ST EPIC, EVENT EVARRRRRRRRRRR!!!" really left me tired of Star Wars and their "fans" (and even after admitting it sucked, they still rushed out to see it again when George Lucas announced that Jar Jar Binks would be back on the big screen in 3D for a cash grab re-release a decade later). Say what you want about Trekkies, but none of us plan on rushing out to theaters if a mediocre Trek film like Insurrection was ever re-released in 3D, nor did we run around pretending that Star Trek Into Darkness was "amazing" and "epic" and "the must see film of the year".

From what I hear, Abrams pretty much just copied the format of the original 1977 film for the new one, scene-by-scene, and substituted different characters accordingly (e.g. Kylo Ren has the Luke Skywalker role of a young brash kid who is thrown into a crisis situation and wants to be a Jedi, Luke Skywalker himself takes the Obi Wan Kenobi "older mentor" role from the original film who reluctantly agrees to take him under his wing, etc.) Wouldn't surprise me since Abrams did the last Star Trek movie and they shamelessly copied scenes and dialogue from Wrath of Khan. Star Trek 12 mined Star Trek 2 for material, and apparently Star Wars VII apes the first one (or "Episode IV", depending on your point of view).

The only variables I wonder about is how much lens flare JJ Abrams put into the movie, and how much screen time the original cast have (I would be surprised if Harrison Ford has more than 15 mins. screentime in this one)

103 posted on 12/19/2015 10:26:18 AM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

Actually, Harrison Ford is the male lead for the entire movie basically. Which comes with its own set of silly problems.


108 posted on 12/19/2015 12:40:38 PM PST by The Toll
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To: BillyBoy; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg

I’m reading less than great things about the movie.

Waiting for Perdogg’s review.


120 posted on 12/19/2015 2:34:31 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: BillyBoy; Kaslin; fieldmarshaldj; pabianice; Impy; GOPsterinMA; Bender2; stephenjohnbanker

RE Star Wars Premiere:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RGohIKxc9M
Here’s Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog and his “review” of Attack of the CLones fans... froma couple years ago

Bout sums it all up....

Watch for the “surprise guest” near the end...


126 posted on 12/19/2015 5:46:22 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; pabianice; Impy; GOPsterinMA; Bender2; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale
RE:”First off, I've always been a Star Trek Man, not a Star Wars Man. “

I am a Lord of the Ring's man.

I love the theme of the ring having to be destroyed because it corrupts it holder. Think about the Senate and this theme.

The last Star War’s movie I saw in a Theater was Return of the Jedi in summer 1983. Of the first three I still think that was the worst.

The others I watched on cable TV.

The Force silliness makes no sense.

I have often pointed out here how many on talk radio have overused the word “conservative” just like that “force’.

It goes like :
I am the real conservative, not you. its me. Conservationism always wins. And real conservationism is my opinion and mine alone. Only my views will win because I am the REAL conservative”

130 posted on 12/19/2015 7:21:36 PM PST by sickoflibs (Donald Trump : 'It will be wonderful. It will be glorious., You will be amazed, Just wait"')
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To: BillyBoy

As you have heard by now, Harrison Ford does ok in this, though his age is showing.

The real shame is Carrie Fisher. When she appears, I couldn’t tell if she was an old Princess Leia, or Jabba the Hutt.


148 posted on 12/21/2015 2:41:04 PM PST by Magnum44 (I dissent)
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