Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Trump attacks Ted Cruz for not supporting ethanol subsidies
The American Thinker ^ | December 12, 2015 | Ed Straker

Posted on 12/11/2015 11:57:00 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Donald Trump attacked Ted Cruz for not supporting ethanol subsidies. He said in Iowa on Friday, "Oil companies give him a lot of money, so he's for oil."

The thing about oil and gas is, it doesn't require big subsidies, because it's the cheapest and most efficient form of fuel for cars. Ethanol, on the other hand, does require big government subsidies, because it is highly uneconomical. Ethanol is much more expensive than oil and gas and, gallon for gallon, produces much less energy than gasoline. That's why the government has to hand over billions in subsidies to big agri-businesses to keep it going. And that's also why the government has to force oil companies to blend ethanol in with their fuels. Because without government coercion, oil companies wouldn't do it, and the price of gasoline would be substantially lower than it is now.

Additionally, ethanol actually acts as a corrosive on car engines. It slowly degrades car parts over time.

But the worst thing about ethanol is that not only does it require taxpayer subsidies, and not only does it raise the price of blended gas, but it also raises the price of many different kinds of foods. Ethanol is made with corn - a lot of it. And when a lot of corn production is diverted to ethanol, there is less corn available to use for food. Corn is heavily used as a sweetener in many food products. By raising the price of corn, the price of many different kinds of foods are raised.

That is what subsidizing ethanol gives us. That is what Donald Trump is for and Ted Cruz is against. Ted Cruz is starting to lead in some Iowa polls, and he's doing it without this kind of pandering...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cagematch; corn; cornholed; cruz; cruz4attorneygeneral; cruznomatch4trump; cruztrumpsag; ethanol; headlies; newyork; tedcruz; texas; trump
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 301-306 next last
To: conservative98

.
>> “False. Trump said nothing about ethanol subsidies.” <<

Wrong. - Ethanol cannot compete with proper use of the land without subsidies.
.


161 posted on 12/12/2015 11:02:30 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel

.
>> “There are times for realpolitik. Trump understands it.” <<

An amusing slogan.

Trump has lived his entire adult life involved in questionable politics. He buys elected thugs cheaply.

None of his signature projects could have been done without stooping to that level.
.


162 posted on 12/12/2015 11:07:46 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: SteveSCH

.
I think you’re sick.


163 posted on 12/12/2015 11:09:11 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel

.
Another CNN fan, huh!
.


164 posted on 12/12/2015 11:10:15 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Cincinatus' Wife
Trump is wrong on ethanol subsidies. The best argument for ethanol subsidies is that they should be phased out rather than just ended. As Huckabee says, it's not the farmers' fault that the government EPA went whole hog on this and involved the farmers in it. The good news is that 'gallon for gallon' is true but that overall return is not true. While gallon for gallon gasoline is cheaper, it is barely ever mentioned that the fermented corn used to make ethanol is STILL good for livestock feed.

So, it gets double use, and that really should be part of the value analysis and it seldom is.

So, I support Trump's position to the extent it eventually phases out subsidies, and I support Cruz's position to the extent it phases out subsidies. And the phaseout should be based on the total value and not only on 'gallon to gallon' value.

165 posted on 12/12/2015 11:12:48 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support the troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network; Nextrush

.
>> “Well Cruz criticized Trump the day before” <<

.
No, he simply stated that he disagreed with Trump’s position.

He made no false allegations WRT Trump.

Trump made several provably false allegations WRT Cruz.

Let’s keep it straight.


166 posted on 12/12/2015 11:14:08 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Cold Heat

“Why do you think Beef, Pork, and Poultry prices have doubled in the last few years and with the new mandate of 15% mix, will continue to rise.”

The price of all the other crops (wheat, soy, etc.) has also increased because those crops have been replaced by ethanol corn. Even the Greenies are moving/have moved against ethanol because of all the water it takes to grow the corn (way more than wheat) and also to process it into ethanol.


167 posted on 12/12/2015 11:18:11 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 135 | View Replies]

To: topfile; Cincinatus' Wife

.
CW: “Something else I’m noticing, the MSM is promoting Trump”

TF: “With respect, I think you’re the only person in America seeing that.”

.
Sorry TF, but everyone in America that is paying attention is seeing that in vivid Technicolor.

Only Trump sycophants fail to see the Media doing all they can to keep Trump constantly visible, with long spots of face time to make his assertions for free.

The MSM should have to register as a Trump Super PAC.
.


168 posted on 12/12/2015 11:21:37 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 147 | View Replies]

To: editor-surveyor
The MSM should have to register as a Trump Super PAC.

(Shhhhhh....) Heh heh heh.

169 posted on 12/12/2015 11:22:55 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 168 | View Replies]

To: editor-surveyor

Certainly not relying on the pollsters from the leftist Moonbats at Monmouth U.


170 posted on 12/12/2015 11:24:51 AM PST by Red Steel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 164 | View Replies]

To: Oceander

.
Mandating Ethanol in gasoline is itself a carefully crafted subsidy to the growers that consent to taking their land out of food production, which is a part of UN Agenda 21, intended to reduce the population through starvation.
.


171 posted on 12/12/2015 11:26:07 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 158 | View Replies]

To: stanne

.
Trump is definitely not “moving on to taking care of a country in trouble.”

He has moved into the opposition party to derail the coming conservative victory.
.


172 posted on 12/12/2015 11:29:37 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 160 | View Replies]

To: SaveFerris
yep

You are quite wrong. All the post represents is someone with ZIP ZERO NADA except bluster to defend a candidate with a 26-year-long history of party-switching and leftist-moderate politics, who didn't even join the Republican party until it became the party of McCain - Romney.

Those who cannot argue facts, post cute little videos and insults.

173 posted on 12/12/2015 11:30:22 AM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 148 | View Replies]

To: editor-surveyor

Whatever


174 posted on 12/12/2015 11:33:15 AM PST by stanne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 172 | View Replies]

To: woollyone

Amen — well said.


175 posted on 12/12/2015 11:33:28 AM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 146 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel

.
>> “Certainly not relying on the pollsters from the leftist Moonbats...” <<

And Reuters, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, and Fox are not “leftist moonbats?”

.
Strange world you live in!
.


176 posted on 12/12/2015 11:35:51 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 170 | View Replies]

To: samtheman
The point of these posts by Cincinatus Wife is to smear Trump.

I'm totally aware of that. I'm not a noob.

I was hoping she would respond directly to me.

177 posted on 12/12/2015 11:37:20 AM PST by VideoDoctor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 132 | View Replies]

To: SaveFerris

.
You’re getting easy to entertain. :o)


178 posted on 12/12/2015 11:38:11 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 148 | View Replies]

To: editor-surveyor
Mandating Ethanol in gasoline is itself a carefully crafted subsidy to the growers that consent to taking their land out of food production, which is a part of UN Agenda 21, intended to reduce the population through starvation.

Yeah, yeah yeah...people don't eat feed-corn. Growers feed the expended mash to livestock, it's better for them than the unfermented grain.

179 posted on 12/12/2015 11:39:41 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 171 | View Replies]

To: samtheman

.
Speaking the truth is usually not considered a smear unless it exposes Donnie-boy’s nakedness.
.


180 posted on 12/12/2015 11:40:16 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 132 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 301-306 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson