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Obamacare Is Now on Life Support
The Fiscal Times ^
| 10 Dec, 2015
| Edward Morrissey
Posted on 12/10/2015 6:58:51 PM PST by MtnClimber
Democrats gained the political muscle to push the Affordable Care Act (ACA) through Congress on three basic arguments.
First, they argued that the United States had too many uninsured people, with estimates ranging from 30 million to 45 million.
Second, the rise in costs for health care outstripped inflation, and the market required an intervention that would bend the cost curve downward.
Third, Democrats claimed that insurance companies made too much profit and shorted most consumers on care, while those with generous health plans - so-called "Cadillac plans" - drove up utilization rates and costs for everyone else.
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KEYWORDS: albartross; deathcare; elections; epicfail; gope; hillary; hillarycare; obama; obamacare; romney; romneycare; socialism
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To: MtnClimber
Demonrats will continue to defend it. Nothing is more important than deflecting criticism from their votes and the first half Black President whom hailed the great achievement. Country be damned.
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posted on
12/10/2015 8:11:38 PM PST
by
DAC21
(.z)
To: Zhang Fei
It wouldn’t hurt my feelings if you took both of them out.
Bring back major medical and make it truly affordable. For the low income uninsured, the states could offer sliding scale subsidized premium of the same product.
It should be totally means tested.
The uninsurable should be covered by a high risk pool.
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posted on
12/10/2015 8:13:10 PM PST
by
ROCKLOBSTER
(Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
To: headstamp 2
“All at the barrel of a gun of course”
And unelected Black Robes, FU Roberts.
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posted on
12/10/2015 8:15:21 PM PST
by
DAC21
(.z)
To: Cringing Negativism Network
Just saying. We didnât have everyone covered, so Obamacare came along. If we had everyone covered, it wouldnât have. Do you really think obamacare is about providing health insurance coverage?
To: ROCKLOBSTER
“Bring back major medical and make it truly affordable.”
AMEN!
I had a nice Hospital policy that covered virtually everything after a 5K deductible for under 300 a month before Sh**Care.
I’ll take care of the doctor office visits myself.
To: MtnClimber
Probably designed to fail so the Dems can implement "single payer" government run so-called health care. That is exactly my own view!
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posted on
12/10/2015 8:56:55 PM PST
by
AmericanExceptionalist
(Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
To: AmericanExceptionalist
0bama said he wanted single payer, but the realities show it will take a few steps.
In Venezuela, the socialists blame the country's failure on "not enough communism."
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posted on
12/10/2015 9:00:46 PM PST
by
MtnClimber
(For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
To: fhayek
There are already more Republicans in office than at any time since 1928. There’s another election next year. We’ll see how many more Dem office holders are removed by the voters.
To: MtnClimber
This is exactly so. “Obamacare” was designed to fail so as to create a clamor for conventional government-delivered socialized medicine. That was the plan all along. That is why they didn’t care that they passed it in the dead of night. It is why our last chance to slow the American decline toward socialist tyranny was the 2012 election, and we missed.
It is over except for the crying. The death of America is baked into the cake.
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posted on
12/10/2015 10:10:28 PM PST
by
Freedom_Is_Not_Free
(The Confederate Flag is the new "N" word.)
To: MtnClimber
0bama said he wanted single payer, but the realities show it will take a few steps. I think that a single-payer system is a horrible idea--but probably not quite so bad as ObamaCare.
If we get a Republican president next, I do hope that the ACA can be repealed...
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posted on
12/10/2015 10:34:28 PM PST
by
AmericanExceptionalist
(Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
To: Cringing Negativism Network
“We didnât have everyone covered, so Obamacare came along.
If we had everyone covered, it wouldnât have.”
You’re delusional if you don’t think that everyone had their medical needs met pre-Obamacare! A lot of people went to the emergency room, and then stiffed the hospital for the costs, but they received care. Now with Obamacare, the one’s being stiffed are all of us who work for a living through the exhorbitant premiums Obamacare brought with it. But hey, as a 75 year-old male, I can get an abortion, so life is good right?
To: vetvetdoug
Try liberty health share. Google it. You might just love it. I learned about it from FReepers too.
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posted on
12/10/2015 10:52:24 PM PST
by
Yaelle
(Trump Cruz 2016)
To: MtnClimber
But we shouldn’t be rooting for it to fail? Because then we get single payer?
To: MtnClimber
i used to be covered by my firm. This past June they stopped because they were only covering some workers and they would have been fined had they continued. I now pay $1200 a month for coverage with no offsetting compensation. Obamacare gave me a $14,400 a year pay cut. Its made every month a struggle to stay afloat. Not a month by now where i don’t have to worry about having enough to make rent.
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posted on
12/11/2015 1:09:39 AM PST
by
wiggen
(#JeSuisCharlie)
To: vetvetdoug
That’s awful, it’s an abomination.
Every single one of my friend’s insurance rates are at least doubling in 2016, wi
th one friend’s insurance, for his wife, son and himself, is going from $780 a month to $1,500 a month, almost ruinous.
How come we aren’t screaming at the barricades, demanding this atrocity be overturned??
Is it only a few people being affected? How come we haven’t heard a general hue and cry about this??
Ed
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posted on
12/11/2015 1:41:29 AM PST
by
Sir_Ed
To: MtnClimber
ANYTHING OBAMA SAYS is worthless.
Watch what he does, and not what he says.
The ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF wants ~ and is DIRECTING the policies that regulate ALL health care plansin the United States ~
TO FAIL ! NEVER FORGET THAT !
Many of us have said for many years that
Obama is doing this INTENTIONALLY. He using the old Soviet Plan from 1934 or earlier.
Only idiots and the evil voted for Obama, or ANY of the Democrats.
AND NOW, WE CAN ADD
"Establishment Republicans" TO THAT LIST, ALSO!
They've lied to us, constantly, and really are
"Collapsing the System". And now, these "Useful IDIOTS" who voted for them, are buying the lies that "Obamacare was designed to work." ?
It was designed to fail from the start.
THEN ... THEY GO TO THE
"SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM".
They've been sucking our wallets dry for over four years now on the "Obamacare" LIE.
AND NOW THEY WANT MORE TAXES ?
Our Founding Fathers would have hung them already!
Lets review:
Who was it that cut future funding for Medicare by $575 billion?
...the president and the Democratic Party successfully bamboozle voters... The 2012 election could turn on this falsehood.
The truth is that the Obama health law reduces future funding for Medicare by $575 billion over the next 10 years ...
Mr. Obama and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius frequently make that false claim.
Indeed, even Medicare's mailings to seniors repeat the claim
that reducing spending on Medicare will make it more financially secure for future years.
The fact is that Mr. Obama's law raids Medicare.
"In early 1968 President Lyndon Johnson [DEMOCRAT] made a change in the budget presentation by including Social Security and all other trust funds in a"unified budget." "
Who was it that expanded Medicare and Medicaid to cover many, many more people than it was originally designed to cover?
The History of Medicare
In 1965, the Social Security Act established both Medicare and Medicaid. Medicare was a responsibility of the Social Security Administration (SSA), while Federal assistance to the State Medicaid programs was administered by the Social and Rehabilitation Service (SRS). SSA and SRS were agencies in the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW). In 1977, the Health Care Financing Administration was created under HEW to effectively coordinate Medicare and Medicaid. In 1980 HEW was divided into the Department of Education and the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).
The first U.S. President to propose a prepaid health insurance plan was Harry S. Truman [DEMOCRAT]. On November 19, 1945, in a special message to Congress, President Truman outlined a comprehensive, prepaid medical insurance plan for all people through the Social Security system. The plan included doctors and hospitals, and nursing, laboratory, and dental services; it was dubbed "National Health Insurance." Furthermore, medical insurance benefits for needy people were to be financed from Federal revenues.
Over the years, lawmakers narrowed the field of health insurance recipients largely to social security beneficiaries. A national survey found that only 56 percent of those 65 years of age or older had health insurance. President John F. Kennedy [DEMOCRAT] pressed legislators for health insurance for the aged. However, it wasn't until 1965 that President Lyndon B. Johnson signed H.R. 6675 (The Social Security Act of 1965; PL 89-97) to provide health insurance for the elderly and the poor.
On July 30, 1965, President Johnson signed the Medicare and Medicaid Bill (Title XVIII and Title XIX of the Social Security Act) in Independence, Missouri in the presence of former President Truman, who received the first Medicare card at the ceremony; Lady Bird Johnson, Vice-President Hubert Humphrey, and Mrs. Truman also were present. President Johnson remarked: "We marvel not simply at the passage of this Bill but that it took so many years to pass it."
Medicare extended health coverage to almost all Americans aged 65 or older. About 19 million beneficiaries enrolled in Medicare in the first year of the program. Medicaid provided access to health care services for certain low-income persons and expanded the existing Federal-State welfare structure that assisted the poor.
The 1972 Social Security Amendments expanded Medicare to provide coverage to two additional high risk groups disabled persons receiving cash benefits for 24 months under the social security program and persons suffering from end-stage renal disease.
...(continued at link)
So Democrats,
Sen Mark Kirk's
statement Thursday, Dec 1, 2011 ...
"There are 55 million Social Security beneficiaries that will see little or no extra cash from this 2012 tax holiday;
instead, the dedicated payroll contributions meant to pay for future benefits are being diverted from the Trust Fund
and replaced with Treasury debt that does not even have a AAA credit rating.
Social Security was designed to be independent and free from the danger of Congressional manipulation,
and maintaining the firewall between the Social Security Trust Fund and general government funding is the best way to maintain the solvency of this important program.
Neither bill protects the Social Security Trust Fund
so I voted no. "
It's not our fault that
DEMOCRATS raided the Social Security Trust Fund. Let's remember ...
Not ALL are to blame for the empty lock box.
It's the Democrats Communists.
Let's take a deeper look.
Okay, then the DEMOCRATS need to shut up!!!
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posted on
12/11/2015 1:42:54 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: MtnClimber
“Probably designed to fail so the Dems can implement âsingle payerâ government run so-called health care.”
No Probably about it - intentional from the start
To: MtnClimber
Won’t pass, they were barely able to get Osamacare through a 60% rat Congress.
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posted on
12/11/2015 3:49:13 AM PST
by
Impy
(They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
To: MtnClimber
Too big to fail...
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posted on
12/11/2015 3:52:57 AM PST
by
Fresh Wind
(Falcon 105)
To: MtnClimber
So long as there is a Dem or RINO in the White House, CJ Roberts on the bench and McConnell and Ryan running the show on the hill, Obamacare is fine and dandy.
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posted on
12/11/2015 5:20:10 AM PST
by
Buckeye Battle Cry
(Hillary - Ethically sleazy and politically stupid)
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