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This is a Brilliant Move by Donald Trump
Red State ^ | Erik Erickson

Posted on 12/07/2015 8:16:38 PM PST by VinL

Donald Trump just trumped all the Republican candidates for President.

The day after the mom jeans wearing squat to pee President came out to assure us that tolerance, gun control, and climate change would save us from ISIS, Donald Trump demanded we bar any muslims from entering this country and bar any American citizen who is muslim from re-entering the United States.

Set aside the merits of what amounts to at least, in part, an unconstitutional position.

This is actually brilliant politics for the here and now. Immediately, every other Republican candidate except Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% rushed out to attack Donald Trump. He’s unhinged, hateful, etc. And the responses all amounted to "we must let muslims enter our country," which sounds a whole lot like "we must allow all Mexicans in our country," which everyone knows is blatantly untrue on both counts.

We do not have to do it, but the other candidates, unable to nuance their spittle, went all in with "no religious tests" and "yes we must do this because it is who we are."

So, to put it another way, the day after the President failed to reassure a scared public following the second worst terrorist attack since 9/11 on domestic soil, Donald Trump not only got himself to the right of all the other candidates, but also got every single one of them save for Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% to align themselves with Barack Obama.

Hate Donald Trump all you want, be offended by his proposal all you want, but it is really brilliant politics for Trump right now in the Republican primary and the reactions from the other candidates prove it. All the people attacking Trump on his immigration proposals now attacking him on this have done themselves no favors within the primary process.

Have none of these people read Art of the Deal? This is an opening, bombastic salvo to set the terms of negotiations and the other candidates except Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% just decided to negotiation in Barack Obama’s position. And it comes at a time some polls are suggesting Trump is starting to fade in places like Iowa.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; aliens; deadstate; donaldthehammer; election2016; erickerickson; immigration; infiltration; invasion; islam; jihad; moratorium; muslim; newyork; redstain; redstate; tedcruz; texas; trojanhorse; trump; trumpwasright
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To: Netz; WTFOVR
Just like it happened when the media said he called all Mexican immigrants (legal and illegal) murderers and rapist.

Got it.

241 posted on 12/08/2015 8:44:20 AM PST by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: VinL
an unconstitutional position

Trump said yesterday he would allow American-citizen Muslims back into the country unless they had aided and abetted the enemy in which case they committed constitutional treason and would not be allowed back.

The Constitution does not require the feds to allow immigration of foreign citizens but DOES require the feds to REPEL INVASIONS (Art I, Sec 8, Cl 15).

The constitutional issue is not on Trump but on Obama who not only is trying to prevent repelling this invasion of Muslims and Syrians, but aiding and abetting our enemies, especially Iran. These are are constitutional acts of treason (Art III, Sec 3, cl 1) and impeachable offenses (Art II, Sec 4).

Why does Erickson and the MSM cite the Constitution erroneously against those that wish to defend our country and our freedoms and fail to even mention the 800-pound-gorilla's worth of unconstitutional acts by Obama and Congress on an almost daily basis?

The only question left is what will it take to remove the Enemy in Chief? We should have to put up with his lawlessness for over another year. He should be impeached NOW.

242 posted on 12/08/2015 8:53:17 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Lurker; Bon mots; Greetings_Puny_Humans; Paladin2; RicocheT; CatOwner; WENDLE; dforest; ...

Trump said yesterday he would allow American-citizen Muslims back into the country unless they had aided and abetted the enemy in which case they committed constitutional treason and would not be allowed back.

The Constitution does not require the feds to allow immigration of foreign citizens but DOES require the feds to REPEL INVASIONS (Art I, Sec 8, Cl 15).

The constitutional issue is not on Trump but on Obama who not only is trying to prevent repelling this invasion of Muslims and Syrians, but aiding and abetting our enemies, especially Iran. These are are constitutional acts of treason (Art III, Sec 3, cl 1) and impeachable offenses (Art II, Sec 4).

Why does Erickson and the MSM cite the Constitution erroneously against those that wish to defend our country and our freedoms and fail to even mention the 800-pound-gorilla’s worth of unconstitutional acts by Obama and Congress on an almost daily basis?

The only question left is what will it take to remove the Enemy in Chief? We should have to put up with his lawlessness for over another year. He should be impeached NOW.


243 posted on 12/08/2015 8:54:31 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: VinL

Go Donald!!!!!


244 posted on 12/08/2015 8:56:35 AM PST by patriot08 (4th geneneration Texan (girl type))
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To: VinL

Trump just tore the last remaining thread from the eGOP!

This election is no longer Republican vs Democrat, it is we Americans versus the Uniparty political establishment in Washington DC!


245 posted on 12/08/2015 9:15:55 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: DungeonMaster

Cut the crap. Man up. Quit trying to legitimize evil. Deal with obvious objective reality, because, sooner rather than later, obvious, objective reality is going to deal with you.

I’ll let Miss Ann Barnhardt take it from there - because she is just so damned good at blowing up the bull crap ...

***Begin transcript***

“Islam is a political system, NOT a religion, and unless and until humanity wakes the hell up and STOPS referring to it as a religion, there is no hope. Islam is a hyper-aggressive, militaristic, expansionist, totalitarian political system designed to create a super-rich micro-oligarchical ruling class with a massive, destitute, genetically handicapped underclass below. The paper-thin faux-religious facade was a conscious, specific con from the very beginning - much like Mormonism and Scientology - a pure racket using borrowed and piggy-backed religious motifs to lend credibility to a massive, loosely-knit network of crime syndicate cells.

Here is a quote from Osama bin Laden that sums it all up:

“Our talks with the infidel West and our conflict with them ultimately revolve around one issue; one that demands our total support, with power and determination, with one voice, and it is: Does Islam, or does it not, force people by the power of the sword to submit to its authority corporeally if not spiritually? Yes. There are only three choices in Islam: [1] either willing submission [conversion]; or [2] payment of the jizya, through physical, though not spiritual, submission to the authority of Islam; or [3] the sword, for it is not right to let him [an infidel] live. The matter is summed up for every person alive: Either submit, or live under the suzerainty of Islam, or die.” - Osama Bin Laden (The Al Qaeda Reader, p. 42)

Definition of suzerainty: a situation in which a region or people is a compulsory tributary to a more powerful entity, which controls its foreign affairs while allowing the tributary vassal state internal autonomy.

Please note that the quote above makes perfectly clear that islam DOES NOT CARE IF YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE ANY OF THEIR FAUX-RELIGIOUS BULLS**T OR NOT - BECAUSE THAT’S NOT THE POINT. All that matters is EARTHLY submission and control of landmass. All of that five-times-per-day sticking one’s butt in the air while some bisexual shrieks about a non-existent pagan moon deity over a loudspeaker is not “prayer.” It is an outward sign of submission to the musloid political system. NOTHING more. It’s a gang signal. It’s a salute.

Islam isn’t about “allah” or “paradise” or “prayer” or “spirituality” or how human beings should relate to one another or how human beings should relate to a “god” or the eternal fate of the human soul. THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THAT. Islam is about acquiring physical, earthly territory and installing a totalitarian government over the Earth that provides a cadre of “elites” masquerading as some sort of “clergy” with massive decadent wealth and as much twisted perverted sex as they want, including homosexual and heterosexual pedophilia, ephebophilia, concubinage, incest, bestiality and necrophilia. There is nothing new under the sun. They want power, they want money and they want sex. The “religious” aspects are a stone-cold con, which Bin Laden himself declared in no uncertain terms.

2. They can’t be reasoned with. They can’t be dialogued with. There is no such thing as “radical islam.” There is islam, which is even more bloodthirsty, conscienceless and perverse than what we are seeing today. We cannot possibly imagine what they would do if given true carte-blanche. Islam today is like an eleven year old boy - just BARELY on the cusp of puberty, just BEGINNING to test the waters. These beheadings, rapes, suicide attacks and terror operations are BUSH LEAGUE. Just as it is nonsensical and depraved to refer to Nazis as “radical Nazis” and “moderate Nazis” - as if ANY Nazism could ever be considered acceptable, so it is with islam. This is why Egyptian president Sisi’s recent speech calling for a “reformation” of islam is nonsense. All Sisi’s speech did was confirm that Sisi himself doesn’t actually believe any of it, and instead of doing the morally correct thing and renouncing islam, Sisi wants to have his pancakes and eat them too. He wants everyone - like him - to subscribe to and associate themselves with something that they don’t actually believe in or take seriously. (How very Pope Francis of him.) Well, you can pour maple syrup on a puddle of bloody, diarrhetic hogs**t all you want, but it will never, ever be pancakes.


246 posted on 12/08/2015 9:22:50 AM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: CottonBall

Get this - he was actually SMILING while he told me this! Talk about an eye-opening conversation!

Moreover, I worked with former Bell Helicopter mechanics, who had worked alongside Muslims over in Iran - just before and then at the time the “Islamic Revolution” began ... The stuff they told me was unFReeping believable. They all left their tools behind when the shooting started - just barely making it onto the departing helicopters as the bullets went wizzing by their heads or tore through the fuselage of the choppers ...

And One thing that was consistent among the Musloid men is that they are good-for-nothing layabouts. They would sit in the air-conditioned hangers or in the shade, while Americans worked out on the ramps and sweated their butts off in 130+ degree heat.


247 posted on 12/08/2015 9:22:50 AM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: WTFOVR
Cut the crap. Man up. Quit trying to legitimize evil

WHAT!?

248 posted on 12/08/2015 9:31:41 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Democrats have covens, not conventions.)
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To: Jim 0216

These spurious arguments made up of whole cloth to obfuscate the fundamental duty of our citizenry to be protected from Trojan horse invaders. Paul Ryan needs to be removed as speaker. We all knew he would not work out.


249 posted on 12/08/2015 9:35:32 AM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: Catsrus

I am greatly appreciative of Donald Trump for destroying political correctness and getting the focus of the campaign onto the critical issues. I am not convinced he wants to be president. If it comes to that he will have my full support. Ted Cruz is my first choice.


250 posted on 12/08/2015 10:18:50 AM PST by untwist (One Bad-Assed Mistake, America!)
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To: Popman

“Donald Trump demanded we bar any muslims from entering this country and bar any American citizen who is muslim from re-entering the United States.”

Trump did not say that.

He said we should not let muslimes in until we can get a grip on who we are admitting, you know, vet them. Thing is, we hear the mom-jeans-wearing obummer say we are conducting extensive vetting, but a US born Christian citizen that never traveled abroad can take up to 2-yrs just to get a basic background check done by DHS. Seriously. So how are these muslime terrorist wanna-be’s going to be vetted extensively and quickly? They aren’t.

Trump did not say not to deny re-entry to American muslimes, he said if American muslimes leave the US to fight for ISIS then they should not be re-admitted back into the US.

Willful misstatement of his position is regular fare for the media and lefty-wingers and Trump haters. . .like JEB! and others.


251 posted on 12/08/2015 10:39:49 AM PST by Hulka
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To: John O

Thank you for the voice of reason.

There are a few nuts here, self included. :)


252 posted on 12/08/2015 10:44:44 AM PST by Calpublican (Muslims: Reform Your Crappy "Religion")
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To: DungeonMaster

Religions, a system for worshipping God, do not call on the murder of unbelievers—except Islam. An argument can, and has been made by my betters, that it is not a religion.

Yes, as you say, there are political implications and influences inherent to all religions.


253 posted on 12/08/2015 10:48:40 AM PST by Calpublican (Muslims: Reform Your Crappy "Religion")
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To: Calpublican
Religions, a system for worshipping God,

The definition is more broad than that. Evolution and atheism are religions and they are not systems of worshipping God. The bible seldom even uses the word "religion".

Idolatry is religion per the bible and in many cases a God is not involved.

254 posted on 12/08/2015 10:52:11 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Democrats have covens, not conventions.)
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To: Jim 0216

Well, you know what the PC crowd would say. Invasion means declaration of war by a government of a foreign country.

There are lots of historically used , constitutional methods to exculed non-citizens (and even citizens in limited circumstances.)


255 posted on 12/08/2015 11:24:52 AM PST by amihow (l)
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To: DungeonMaster

A well-written commentary on this subject if you are interested (It’s not long):

http://thepatriotfactor.blogspot.com/p/islkam-is-not-religion.html


256 posted on 12/08/2015 11:42:57 AM PST by Calpublican (Muslims: Reform Your Crappy "Religion")
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To: Popman

If the left wants to throw a fit point out Obama wants American citizens on a no fly list and to take away their natural 2nd Amendment rights.


257 posted on 12/08/2015 12:09:10 PM PST by taterjay
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To: CodeToad
Bears repeating:

"This election is no longer Republican vs Democrat, it is we Americans versus the Uniparty political establishment in Washington DC!"

Totally agree. . Shades of 1775. .

258 posted on 12/08/2015 12:09:54 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

People forget that the revolutionary period was a heightened state of affairs from about 1735 to 1775.


259 posted on 12/08/2015 12:10:54 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Paladin2

I think Trump should start the Miss Immigrant contest. They have to score in the top 20% in each of the standard categories of interview, onstage question, lifestyle and fitness, talent, and evening wear.

That and they should bring back the swimsuit category. That alone would help rule out the Muslims.


260 posted on 12/08/2015 12:19:14 PM PST by DannyTN
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