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This is a Brilliant Move by Donald Trump
Red State ^ | Erik Erickson

Posted on 12/07/2015 8:16:38 PM PST by VinL

Donald Trump just trumped all the Republican candidates for President.

The day after the mom jeans wearing squat to pee President came out to assure us that tolerance, gun control, and climate change would save us from ISIS, Donald Trump demanded we bar any muslims from entering this country and bar any American citizen who is muslim from re-entering the United States.

Set aside the merits of what amounts to at least, in part, an unconstitutional position.

This is actually brilliant politics for the here and now. Immediately, every other Republican candidate except Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% rushed out to attack Donald Trump. He’s unhinged, hateful, etc. And the responses all amounted to "we must let muslims enter our country," which sounds a whole lot like "we must allow all Mexicans in our country," which everyone knows is blatantly untrue on both counts.

We do not have to do it, but the other candidates, unable to nuance their spittle, went all in with "no religious tests" and "yes we must do this because it is who we are."

So, to put it another way, the day after the President failed to reassure a scared public following the second worst terrorist attack since 9/11 on domestic soil, Donald Trump not only got himself to the right of all the other candidates, but also got every single one of them save for Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% to align themselves with Barack Obama.

Hate Donald Trump all you want, be offended by his proposal all you want, but it is really brilliant politics for Trump right now in the Republican primary and the reactions from the other candidates prove it. All the people attacking Trump on his immigration proposals now attacking him on this have done themselves no favors within the primary process.

Have none of these people read Art of the Deal? This is an opening, bombastic salvo to set the terms of negotiations and the other candidates except Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% just decided to negotiation in Barack Obama’s position. And it comes at a time some polls are suggesting Trump is starting to fade in places like Iowa.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; aliens; deadstate; donaldthehammer; election2016; erickerickson; immigration; infiltration; invasion; islam; jihad; moratorium; muslim; newyork; redstain; redstate; tedcruz; texas; trojanhorse; trump; trumpwasright
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To: Wilderness Conservative

I was thinking that last night— as a Cruz alternative. It would seem to remove the charge of discrimination, and I think it would be an easier sale-— for the sake of safety, let’s get our security procedures in order.


221 posted on 12/08/2015 6:28:01 AM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: wayoverontheright

“We must stop advocating for the word “radical” to be attached to Islam, the whole belief structure is radical.”

You are absolutely correct, and the dictator of Turkey agrees with you:

“There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.” - Recep Tayyip Erdogan

http://www.thememriblog.org/turkey/blog_personal/en/2595.htm


222 posted on 12/08/2015 6:31:08 AM PST by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: Popman

“Sorry, you are a citizen, but now in complete limbo...stuck in never, never land, a citizen without a country...”

Life’s a bitch.

Islam’s not a religion, it’s an ideology.

noun: ideology; plural noun: ideologies

A system of ideas and ideals, especially one that forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy.

synonyms: beliefs, ideas, ideals, principles, ethics, morals


223 posted on 12/08/2015 6:31:27 AM PST by babygene (Make America Great Again)
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To: bob_esb

Trump has a very strong base of supporters, but this statement will start to push people away.

Rule #1 is you don’t hand the opponent the means to hit you. He just did that.


224 posted on 12/08/2015 6:33:21 AM PST by redgolum
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To: Flycatcher

When you start talking about banning religious groups, remember there are many who want to outlaw Christianity. Heck, many liberals see the SB attacks as PROOF that all religion, starting with Christianity, should be banned.


225 posted on 12/08/2015 6:34:24 AM PST by redgolum
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To: redgolum

“Trump might have just jumped the shark.

He just handed the other side a huge club to hit him with.”

He’ll implode any minute...

Just wait...

Any minute now.

Imploding in 3...2...1...

Imploding in 3...2...1...

Here it is. Imploding in 3...2...1...

It’s coming, just wait for it.


226 posted on 12/08/2015 6:36:52 AM PST by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: Bon mots

I caught it the first time, and knew the message you were trying to convey. It was a little fast for my weak eyesight; thus, I had to watch it 3 times to catch each flickering image. The second one is much easier to watch.

I love your gifs. They are brilliant! Please, let’s have more. I agree, send them to Trump, or someone who will air them.


227 posted on 12/08/2015 6:37:47 AM PST by floralamiss ("Our Father, which art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name....." -Lord & Savior Jesus Christ)
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To: VinL
Hate Donald Trump all you want, be offended by his proposal all you want, but it is really brilliant politics for Trump right now in the Republican primary and the reactions from the other candidates prove it.

Yup.

228 posted on 12/08/2015 6:38:38 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Psalm 144

Hahahahah!


229 posted on 12/08/2015 6:39:03 AM PST by floralamiss ("Our Father, which art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name....." -Lord & Savior Jesus Christ)
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To: House Atreides

The initial quote is to bar all moslems from entering America. But I read something else that said he excepted American moslems and moslems serving in our armed forces.


230 posted on 12/08/2015 6:44:04 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: John O

Amen, amen...


231 posted on 12/08/2015 6:52:21 AM PST by Netz
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To: redgolum

Sundance, at the Conservative Treehouse, observes that the MSM has conditioned us to panick over such statements. His point is that the average person gets past the MSM-induced hysteria very quickly, and then recognizes the commonsense wisdom of Trump’s proposal.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/12/08/donald-trumps-proposal-to-halt-muslim-immigration-is-prudent-wise-brilliant-and-long-overdue/#more-109501


232 posted on 12/08/2015 6:53:15 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Psalm 144

He might end up getting prosecuted for a hate crime.

Which in a way, would be a huge boost to the ratings. In fact, that may be the plan.


233 posted on 12/08/2015 6:55:34 AM PST by redgolum
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To: WTFOVR

I’m surprised he was that honest! I read somewhere that their playbook for spreading Islam everywhere was to Infiltrate peacefully, blend in until the time to act.


234 posted on 12/08/2015 7:09:22 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: RitaOK

Hilarious!

I keep wondering if he plans these outcomes and in hindsight, it sure appears that way.


235 posted on 12/08/2015 7:12:12 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall; Travis McGee
Trump is right. There will be more attacks.

America has to confront its denial that Islam is not a religion in the traditional sense. It's proponents use religion as a cover, etc.

For those who haven't seen, in my opinion, the Article of the Year that ties in with all of this, please check out Matt Bracken's, aka Travis McGee's article:

Bracken: Tet, Take Two - Islam's 2016 European Offensive

Just brilliant. Travis totally nails the big picture here. Pass it on. . Education is the key.

236 posted on 12/08/2015 7:51:10 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Netz

SCREW THE MEDIA! I have had enough of being told what the press thinks - and I have especially had enough of being told by the press what I should think!

The “American” media is a cabal of butt-licking, turd chewing, camel-humping traitors - all of them, almost without exception.

The media, and its goose stepping supporters, can all go march off a cliff!

Are we now supposed to shake in our boots because of what some media tool might say about us? Are we supposed to shape U.S. national security issues around whatever pretense the crap-for-brains media swine might think?

The media can all go straight to the devil, for all I care.

The “American” media is worse than Pravda. They make Joseph Stalin’s mocking productions look like something from the amateur hour. The “American” press lies with as much ferocity, bile and regularity as ever did any operative of the Soviet KGB ... In fact, the “American” press are far worse. They have ZERO integrity - and less than zero credibility. Their opinions and so-called “news” are worthy of the same treatment as that which was given to Nazi war criminal Joseph Goebbels! That is what I think of the “American” press!

I am completely enjoying what Donald Trump is doing to them.

And since the “American” press is so hell-bent on depriving us of our Second Amendment Right, they will have no leg to stand upon when the Musloids get around to depriving them of their First Amendment Right. That would be an ironic justice.

There is not a hole deep enough on the planet into which we could cast down the maggot-infested dung nuggets the “American” press squeezes out it’s Marxist butt-hole and calls “news.” The “American” press are traitors, and have been such for at least the last 75 years. They should be treated with nothing but contempt, and nothing they write should be believed. If any need to be exiled from this country, it is the members of the “American” press!

Never again caution me about what the press may think, or say, or write ... They are not worth a bucket of spit.


237 posted on 12/08/2015 7:58:45 AM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: RicocheT
This is the first overt signs of the Trump/Cruz axis. I guarantee you that if Trump is the nominee, then Cruz is the Veep. I think it's a done deal.
238 posted on 12/08/2015 8:35:49 AM PST by ExSoldier ("Terrorists: They hate you yesterday, today, and tomorrow. End it, no more tomorrows for them!)
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To: VinL
Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

239 posted on 12/08/2015 8:36:14 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Bulwinkle
Trump just helped Cruz, trump did not help himself.

That's my conclusion as well unless we get hit again in which case Trump's position looks more than reasonable.

240 posted on 12/08/2015 8:41:41 AM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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