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Colorado Springs: a playground for pro-life, pro-gun Evangelical Christians
theguardian.com ^ | November 28, 2015 | Josiah Hesse

Posted on 11/28/2015 6:04:19 AM PST by ilovesarah2012

Colorado Springs, the location of an attack on a Planned Parenthood clinic that left three people dead, is a centre of rightwing Christian culture with a “wild west mentality” when it comes to guns.

The attack, by a lone gunman carrying a rifle or shotgun, took place at a clinic that is the site of regular anti-abortion protests by the city’s pro-life Christian groups.

Planned Parenthood, aware of hostility about their work, recently moved to the new facility, hoping it would provide more security for staff.

The building has been likened to a fortress by anti-abortion campaigners and Friday’s attacks revealed that it is equipped with “safe rooms” for staff to shelter in the event of such an event. It also has an extensive security camera system.

With anti-abortion policies supported by many Republican presidential candidates such as Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Jeb Bush, rhetoric attacking Planned Parenthood and other such organisations is not hard to find in the city.

Last spring, following the gruesome attack on a Colorado woman who had her unborn-baby ripped from her womb with a knife, state representative and Springs resident Gordon Klingenschmitt said the attack was “the curse of God upon America for our sin of not protecting innocent children in the womb”.

Colorado’s second largest city, with a population of 445,800, has built itself a reputation as a playground for white, pro-gun, pro-life Evangelical Christians. It is also home to one army base, two air force bases, and an air force.

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To: ilovesarah2012

The NUT traveled here (Colorado Springs) from the Carolina’s, but used to live in the area.

Still no motive or weapon description.


61 posted on 11/28/2015 7:26:28 AM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: Little Ray

Someone posted in FB that the shooting was at the Drive Up of Chase Bank, but another said that the police stated it started in some eye clinic.


62 posted on 11/28/2015 8:12:37 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: Solson

His mug shot looks like actor Nick Nolte mugshot LOL.


63 posted on 11/28/2015 8:13:07 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: arthurus

The dead police officer was an evangelical Christian.


64 posted on 11/28/2015 8:22:09 AM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: arthurus

The media always promotes that meme before the actual identity is known. When they shriek it loud and long and then the perp is discovered to be Moslem or gangbanger or garden variety lunatic they say that quietly and late and trust that the planted assumptions will be the lasting impressions.


Exactly.

With virtual non-stop coverage and story headlines of “Planned Parenthood Shooting” that continues into today, this will always be forever known and referred to as the PP shooting regardless of the actual motive.


65 posted on 11/28/2015 8:28:48 AM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: dp0622

Exactly my thought. Although the state as a whole is liberal.


66 posted on 11/28/2015 8:51:03 AM PST by rcofdayton (.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

At this point in time, the Colorado police haven’t released the shooter’s motives.


67 posted on 11/28/2015 9:05:24 AM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:21)
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To: dp0622
Hmmm...three people dead...

I wonder how many hundreds or thousands of people that “clinic” killed.

Total people dead by the leftists, just on this topic, 50 million plus. The Leftists are exceeding the death toll of their Big Government hero Adolph.

68 posted on 11/28/2015 9:12:05 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are those committed by illegal aliens)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Sounds like Josiah Hesse found an old article from 1938 about the Jews and modified it to tell us how bad Christians are.

I imagine that he has a book in German entitled “Goebbels for Dummies”.

I can't find the part in the article where he proposes that Christians in Colorado wear armbands with the word Juden crossed out and supplanted by a cross.

I guess he'll put that in his next article.

69 posted on 11/28/2015 9:16:47 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are those committed by illegal aliens)
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To: PATRIOT1876

Those weren’t REAL people.

They were fake people.

The difference is obvious.

Or something.

Plus the guy has been charged with animal cruelty, being a peeping tom, etc. He was a kook.

But that would only matter if he were muslim.


70 posted on 11/28/2015 9:18:47 AM PST by dp0622 (..)
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To: aimhigh

The Latest: Mayor hints at motive in Colorado clinic attack

The man who police say attacked a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado had lived part of the time in a cabin with no electricity or running water in the North Carolina mountains.
His neighbors in Black Mountain said Robert Lewis Dear kept mostly to himself. But James Russell said when Dear did talk, it was a rambling combination of a number of topics that didn’t make sense together and he tended to avoid eye contact.

Two topics Russell said he never heard Dear talk about were religion or abortion.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/The-Latest-Police-ID-clinic-gunman-as-Robert-6661583.php


71 posted on 11/28/2015 9:19:55 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

To use Obama’s own words, “let’s not over react and get on our high horse”. Oh, wait a minute-he was talking about ISIS.


72 posted on 11/28/2015 9:31:05 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: ilovesarah2012

Obama is right, enough is enough, it is past time that we use the weapons of war for their real purpose. Firing squads for Treasonous politicians. It may prevent their other legal use, as ratified in the second admendment.

Personally, importing a hostile army into the country at a time of war is the most obvious form of treason, but I will leave that to a proper court of law.

Either way, the clock ticks between a firing squad and civil war.


73 posted on 11/28/2015 9:34:17 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Popman

No, but if he was an Islamic terrorist, we’ll never hear about it from the MSM. The local media in my town said the UC Merced slasher’s motive was that he was kicked out of a study group. Patently untrue.


74 posted on 11/28/2015 9:34:45 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: dp0622
... all it's making me want to do is pack my bags, call the airline and move there.

Come on in. As the unofficial welcoming committee for Colorado Springs and El Paso county we welcome all "bitter clingers" to the area. I think you will find the beauty breathtaking, the climate always interesting and most of the people decent.

75 posted on 11/28/2015 9:36:55 AM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: fatnotlazy

I have heard that the shooting started in the parking lot, not inside PP. There was also speculation that this was a robbery gone bad or a domestic dispute between the gunman and an ex-wife or girlfriend.


There was something in one of the early reports about him firing at moving vehicles.


76 posted on 11/28/2015 9:37:36 AM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: DaveyB

You’re killing. I dont want to be in NYC anymore.

It was fun. Like I said before working in the WTC and Rock Plaza was cool.

I’m 47. Want a change. Have to wait for Better Half’s mom to drop dead. Old bat is pretty healthy.

I guess if I really put up a tussle, I could get her to change her mind.

Or just find a gal over there :) JK JK JK JK!!! In case she sees this.


77 posted on 11/28/2015 9:41:01 AM PST by dp0622 (..)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
A lot of stories and possible scenarios. Nothing proven or confirmed yet. Of course, that hasn't stopped people from blaming Ted Cruz, white Christian men, Republicans and/or anyone owning a firearm.

I'm waiting for someone to implicate climate change next.

78 posted on 11/28/2015 9:45:25 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy
I'm waiting for someone to implicate climate change next.

Well it was pretty cold yesterday here in Colorado Springs and it did snow just a little.

79 posted on 11/28/2015 9:49:51 AM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: JJ_Folderol

Good question. I would say, only when convenient. Only when it fits their fictional narrative.


80 posted on 11/28/2015 10:28:32 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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