Posted on 11/27/2015 7:14:27 AM PST by Michael van der Galien
A few days ago, Turkish F16-jets shut down a Russian jet. Ever since, tensions between Turkey and Russia have been on the rise.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has publicly threatened Turkey, and has taken action against Turkish citizens inside Russia. Some construction companies owned by Turks have been raided, trucks delivering flowers have been sent back at the border, and the Russian government has warned Turkish food producers that their goods may no longer be welcome in Russia.
At the same time, Putin has spoken out against Turkey's Islamist ruler, President Erdogan, by accusing him of supporting terrorism. The Russian president said in a joint press conference with French President Francois Hollande yesterday that Turkey has supported all kinds of Islamist groups in Syria, ISIS being one of them.
President Erdogan has now shot back. He warns Putin not to "play with fire," adding that Putin and Assad, not Turkey, are supporting ISIS:
"Putin says ‘those who have double standards on terrorism are playing with fire.’ I totally agree with him. Indeed, supporting the [Bashar] al-Assad regime in Syria, which has killed 380,000 people, is playing with fire. Striking opposition groups that have international legitimacy with the excuse of fighting against Daesh [an acronym of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, ISIL] is playing with fire. Using an incident in which Turkey’s righteousness is accepted by the whole world as an excuse to torment our citizens who were in Russia to attend a fair is playing with fire. Irresponsibly hitting trucks in the region that are there for trade or humanitarian reasons is playing with fire. We sincerely advise Russia not to play with fire." He went on to say that the United States has documented the oil trade between ISIS, Russia and the Syrian regime.
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It’s amazing to see but Russia and Putin actually have the moral high ground on this one. Obama and Erdogan are supporting ISIS terrorist under the guise of helping Syrian rebels against Assad. This will not end well for anyone but at least mother Russia is taking it to the head choppers.
God rebuke that fool Erdogan. Before he can do any more harm.
You’d think EVERYBODY would be burying hatchets in the interest of sending ISIS to the ash heap of history.
But that’s not how the devil defends himself.
Yeah like they did in Aghanistan.
Turkey, under the guidance of Erdogan and his allies, are becoming increasingly Islamist and more militant and virtually all of the more secular former senior military leaders have been replaced. While Western media and the Obama administration may not recognize or report that fact, Putin certainly does and it will undoubtedly influence his policy vis-Ã -vis Turkey.
But he has NATO behind him doesn't he? Even if he did it's still playing with fire.
Putin might have to launch a super blitz and warn Obama and NATO to stay away. That could be the sanest thing in the world to say, and I say it with some shame about where it puts America, but we knew Obama was a stinker.
NATO ain't coming to help nobody.
Turkey bombs the Kurds. The Kurds used to be our allies.
We should be bombing Islamist Turkey for attacking our allies.
Could these people running our government F$%# up a bread sammich?
...rhetorical...
In the end, Russia will side with Russia.
Bring back Constantinople!
Do that, Pooty-Poot, and Russia will finally get some of that respect it wants from the West.
I think you would hard pressed to actually prove that statement...
I find very little evidence Obama actually wants to defeat ISIL...
Obama is mostly as they say "all hat and no cattle"
He talks but does almost nothing...
In my book, Obama is sympathetic to ISIL as long as they help get rid of Assad...
The French were more than pissed recently when they relied on US targeting for an airstrike. What they ended up hitting were empty, abandoned buildings, not command and control centers or active munitions warehouses. 0bama is providing cover for ISIS
The Turkish Armed Forces collectively rank as the second largest standing military force in NATO, after the U.S. Armed Forces, with an estimated strength in 2015 of 639,551 military, civilian and paramilitary personnel. Turkey is one of five NATO member states which are part of the nuclear sharing policy of the alliance, together with Belgium, Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands. A total of 90 B61 nuclear bombs are hosted at the Incirlik Air Base, 40 of which are allocated for use by the Turkish Air Force in case of a nuclear conflict, but their use requires the approval of NATO.
Anyone familiar with how Turks perform in battle know that they are some of the fiercest soldiers in the world. The Russians want no part of them.
I hope so.
In the end, Russia will side with the West.0
The West is Europe .... and Russia is already siding with the West when it comes to the issue of the various Islamic factions, Islamic aggression and ISIS
The problem is does Turkey and the US (Obama) really side with the West?...... when it come to ISIS and Islam.....
Problem being they Turkey and the US (Obama) are seen as secretly supporting ISIS and Islamic state tyrant vs Assad who is essentially secular.
we have Islamic state run by Islamic tyrants... Iran and what Isis is trying to create .. the Islamic revolutionary Republic’s
And we have secular states, (Assad’s Syria) even though they’re primarily Islamic
the Europeans and Russians prefer secular non expansion tyrants in the Middle East
versus
Expansionist Islamic state tyrants of the Middle East at countries like Turkey and Obama seem to support
Assad has no designs outside of his own borders ...
ISIS and Iran do... they both have designs for an Islamic one world government... the caliphate
What? I did not set you on fire. Yet.
You almost have to feel sorry for the Muslim peasants if this is all they get from their leaders is lie upon lie.
We've been schooled for near 8 years on what it's like by our lying Muslim.
I would like to see Constantinople a Christian city once again.
Russian Orthodox 15-20%, Muslim 10-15%, other Christian 2% (2006 est.)
note: estimates are of practicing worshipers; Russia has large populations of non-practicing believers and non-believers, a legacy of over seven decades of Soviet rule
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