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How Islamic Are Islamic Terrorists?
National Catholic Register ^ | 11/20/2015 | EDWARD PENTIN

Posted on 11/21/2015 1:06:34 AM PST by GonzoII

According to experts, the fundamentalist jihadists who carry out murderous attacks are Muslims whose beliefs are rooted partly in longstanding Islamic teachings.

ROME - President Barack Obama refrained from describing Nov. 13's Paris attacks as "Islamic terrorism" or even radical Islamic terrorism, continuing his policy of distancing such atrocities from the religion.

But that nonetheless leaves open the question: How Islamic are Islamic terrorists?

To equate the attacks with "views of Islam" creates "stereotypes" that are "counterproductive" and "wrong," Obama told reporters at the G20 Summit in Antalya, Turkey, Nov. 16. "They will lead, I think, to greater recruitment into terrorist organizations over time, if this becomes somehow defined as a Muslim problem as opposed to a terrorist problem."

The Nov. 13 coordinated terrorist attacks of mass shootings, suicide bombings and hostage-taking were the deadliest in France since World War II, costing 129 lives and leaving at least 80 critically injured. The Islamic State group (ISIS), a fundamentalist jihadist group that emerged from the Sunni vs. Shiite conflicts in Iraq and Syria, claimed responsibility for the atrocity. Following the attacks, eight of the attackers were dead - seven of them from suicide explosions and one killed by security forces in the music venue.

President Obama, like President George W. Bush before him, has long been reluctant to tie a "true Islam" to such attacks. Many Muslims also try to distance themselves from any linkage of their religion to violence, asserting that such claims are false and expose "moderate Muslims" to potential reprisals or victimization.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: daesh; iraq; isis; islam; jihad; rop; shiite; sunni; syria; terrorism; wahhabism
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"Muslims who say this has nothing to do with Islam are simply trying to liberate their consciences to say they disagree with them," he told the Register. "That they disagree is fine, but to say ISIS are not representing Islam is wrong. They are not representing the whole Islam; no one represents the whole Islam. The same could be said for Christians. But what is for sure is that they do have a fundament in the Islamic tradition, sometimes clearly taking instructions from the Quran, such as when they kill a nonbeliever."

1 posted on 11/21/2015 1:06:34 AM PST by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

Mohammed was a terrorist. Wasn’t he Islamic?


2 posted on 11/21/2015 1:07:38 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye

It’s like the Communist moonbats that argue that Communist regimes (USSR, North Korea, Cuba, et al) aren’t “REALLY” Communist. Mohammadanism and terrorism go hand in hand. You can’t have one without the other (well, not entirely, you can pair terrorism with anything, but Islam cannot work or exist without terrorism, similar to how Communism cannot work without the power of a totalitarian police state, de facto terrorism). Why the left loves Islam.


3 posted on 11/21/2015 1:11:36 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: TigersEye

Yes and Mohammed is held up by Muslims as the ideal on how to live the Islamic life.

And that includes the obligation to wage jihad.


4 posted on 11/21/2015 1:11:40 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

No Muslim country is a democracy.

The masses are savage, blind and cruel.

It takes a despot to keep them from destroying each other.

If you’ve seen the FX series “Tyrant” you get a sense of what life is like in a Muslim country.

And if you bring in democracy, it will bring Islamists to power. So you would have one man, one vote, one time.


5 posted on 11/21/2015 1:14:41 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I believe he actually wrote about that obligation so it’s not just some Islamic scholars opinion as well.


6 posted on 11/21/2015 1:15:07 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: GonzoII

Moselm control of the Mediterranean threw Europe into the dark ages. Moslem golden ages are propaganda talking points directed to the uninformed, the unchurched and the ignorant.


7 posted on 11/21/2015 1:34:22 AM PST by x_plus_one (The hammer of heretics, the light of Spain, the savior of his country, the honor of his order..)
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Islam is a war plan.


8 posted on 11/21/2015 1:34:31 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

you are right. And communism can never ever work because I will want more than you or you will wanr more than me and that’s a good thing


9 posted on 11/21/2015 1:40:48 AM PST by dp0622 (..)
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To: GonzoII

[ To equate the attacks with “views of Islam” creates “stereotypes” that are “counterproductive” and “wrong,” Obama told reporters at the G20 Summit in Antalya, Turkey, Nov. 16 ]

BZZZTTT WRONG!

It puts PRESSURE on the so called MODERATES in ISLAM to clamp DOWN and SPEAK UP Against the Extremists that are giving THEM ALL a bad name!!!

Why must CHRISTIANS or JEWS be the ONLY SHAMED religion when ANYONE who is CHRISTIAN or a JEW does a BAD DEED?????

Maybe the “rare as a unicorn moderate Muslims” would get sick and tired of the people doing bad acts in the name of Islam and DO SOMETHING to REFORM their damned religion and bring it forward a few hundred damned years!!!


10 posted on 11/21/2015 2:11:58 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: goldstategop

[ No Muslim country is a democracy.

The masses are savage, blind and cruel.

It takes a despot to keep them from destroying each other.

If you’ve seen the FX series “Tyrant” you get a sense of what life is like in a Muslim country.

And if you bring in democracy, it will bring Islamists to power. So you would have one man, one vote, one time. ]

Democracy in a MUSLIM country is only a TOOL used to vote Sharia Law into POWER by the backwards ass masses, once that is done Democracy in that country dies a quick and forgotten death, see Afghanistan, see Muslim brotherhood Egypt, see Iraq, see iran, etc etc....


11 posted on 11/21/2015 2:14:18 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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12 posted on 11/21/2015 2:17:42 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook: Hopalong Ginsberg | Instagram: hopalonginsberg)
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To: GraceG

Even voting itself is considered unislamic, btw.


13 posted on 11/21/2015 2:28:14 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

[ Even voting itself is considered unislamic, btw. ]

True, but when forced to vote it turns into a one time voting for their chains of islamic oppression to be placed back on their legs.


14 posted on 11/21/2015 2:30:42 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: GonzoII

Does it matter? Or as Hillary likes to ask, What difference does it make? (Kill ‘em all! and let Allah sort ‘em out.)


15 posted on 11/21/2015 2:44:56 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: livius
Even?

The whole idea of freedom is anathema to them and that is the crux of the matter. They hate our freedom. It's too hard for them to understand.

The marriage of freedom and government is the most revolutionary political concept ever!

16 posted on 11/21/2015 2:47:40 AM PST by firebrand
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To: GraceG

Interesting point. As shown in Egypt recently and other places in the past.

I used to say “Education can’t keep up with population.” But if we kept education very simple on this point, maybe we could change things eventually.


17 posted on 11/21/2015 2:51:27 AM PST by firebrand
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To: GonzoII

Just read their operating manual and you know where all that stuff comes from. It IS Islam.


18 posted on 11/21/2015 2:52:43 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: GonzoII

The Oregon killer asked his victims if they were Christian.

In Mali, they made people recite from the Quran in order to go free.

Obama is practicing Taqiyyah.


19 posted on 11/21/2015 2:53:38 AM PST by firebrand
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To: goldstategop
and Mohammed is held up by all Muslims as the ideal on how to live the Islamic life.
20 posted on 11/21/2015 2:53:47 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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