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Russia’s New ‘Nuclear Torpedo’ Can Create Giant Tsunamis And Wipe Out Entire Coastal Cities
The Economic Collapse ^ | 16 Nov 2015 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 11/17/2015 9:59:10 AM PST by amorphous

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To: Jeff Head

Ping to an item of possible interest.


21 posted on 11/17/2015 10:13:18 AM PST by Disambiguator (Cis-American)
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To: Hatteras

"A million tsunamis!"

22 posted on 11/17/2015 10:13:29 AM PST by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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To: Hatteras

Easier to crash the moon into earth. The level of energy needed to put up a 1000 foot wave is orders of magnitude beyond Tsar Bomba.

When continental plates shift/ big quakes you get MAYBE 25 foot waves as in Japan. The few monster waves in history were likely asteroid strike/extinction level impacts. and a mini sub sized nuke is gonna do that? Nukes are bad. But not THAT bad.


23 posted on 11/17/2015 10:13:57 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - Embrace it)
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To: McGruff
If we had one we could take care of those islands China created instead of playing chicken with them.

Careful, Putinista McGruff. Don't forget the ChiComs are firm allies with your boys in Moscow.

From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2005/09/war-games-russia-china-grow-alliance

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170287,00.html
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Sept 11, 2014

China and Russia to build major seaport: report

China and Russia will build one of the largest ports in north-east Asia on Russia's Sea of Japan coast, reports say, in a further sign of the powerhouses' growing alliance.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-11/china-and-russia-to-build-major-seaport-report/5738036
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Obama: "We Welcome China's Rise"
CBS News ^ | January 19, 2011 | Stephanie Condon
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24 posted on 11/17/2015 10:14:23 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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To: Norm Lenhart

>> ...would scatter tiny chunks of what used to be earth throughout the solar system.

ROFL. I was wondering where you were going with that as I read the first part of the sentence.

Economic collapse blog readers can be quite gullible.


25 posted on 11/17/2015 10:15:13 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Zathras
Crossroads Baker scared people so bad they abandoned 20kt deep water shot till I think Wigwam.

Yep.


Sequence of blast events:

The Baker shot produced so many unusual phenomena that a conference was held two months later to standardize nomenclature and define new terms for use in descriptions and analysis.[92] The underwater fireball took the form of a rapidly expanding hot gas bubble that pushed against the water, generating a supersonic hydraulic shock wave which crushed the hulls of nearby ships as it spread out. Eventually it slowed to the speed of sound in water, which is one mile per second (1600 m/s), five times faster than that of sound in air.[93] On the surface, the shock wave was visible as the leading edge of a rapidly expanding ring of dark water, called the "slick" for its resemblance to an oil slick.[94] Close behind the slick was a visually more dramatic, but less destructive whitening of the water surface called the "crack".[95]

When the gas bubble's diameter equaled the water depth, 180 feet (55 m), it hit the sea floor and the sea surface simultaneously. At the bottom, it started digging a shallow crater, ultimately 30 feet (9 m) deep and 2,000 feet (610 m) wide.[96] At the top, it pushed the water above it into a "spray dome," which burst through the surface like a geyser. Elapsed time since detonation was four milliseconds.[97]

During the first full second, the expanding bubble removed all the water within a 500-foot (152 m) radius and lifted two million tons[98] of spray and seabed sand into the air. As the bubble rose at 2,500 feet per second (762 m/s),[99] it stretched the spray dome into a hollow cylinder or chimney of spray called the "column," 6,000 feet (1,829 m) tall and 2,000 feet (610 m) wide, with walls 300 feet (91 m) thick.[100]

As soon as the bubble reached the air, it started a supersonic atmospheric shock wave which, like the crack, was more visually dramatic than destructive. Brief low pressure behind the shock wave caused instant fog which shrouded the developing column in a "Wilson cloud", also called a "condensation cloud", obscuring it from view for two seconds. The Wilson cloud started out hemispherical, expanded into a disk which lifted from the water revealing the fully developed spray column, then expanded into a doughnut and vanished. The Able shot also produced a Wilson cloud, but heat from the fireball dried it out more quickly.[100]

By the time the Wilson cloud vanished, the top of the column had become a "cauliflower," and all the spray in the column and its cauliflower was moving down, back into the lagoon. Although cloudlike in shape, the cauliflower was more like the top of a geyser where water stops moving up and starts to fall. There was no mushroom cloud; nothing rose into the stratosphere.[101]


Russia has tested air-burst bombs far larger than Baker.

26 posted on 11/17/2015 10:17:02 AM PST by amorphous
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To: C19fan
1,000 foot tidal wave??? How many megatons would that require?

More than a single device could create.

There is a physical limit to the number of stages that can be used successfully in a thermonuclear device and they cannot create enough force to do what this article claims.

27 posted on 11/17/2015 10:17:21 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: DoughtyOne

>> Tsunamis aren’t exact targetable.

They’ll work all that out during testing. ;-)


28 posted on 11/17/2015 10:18:49 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Zathras
A 25MT device detonated just inside the Continental shelf could possibly create such an event.

The Tsar Bomb test of 1961 was over 50 MT, and could have been scaled to 100MT.

Weighing 30 tons, it was too big to be transported by air. An unmanned sub, operating as a long range torpedo, could carry a really, really, really big bomb.

29 posted on 11/17/2015 10:19:21 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Disambiguator

Russia and its fan boys are always tripping out on some sort of super weapon that they say they will develop.

This is pure rubbish IMHO.

They already have the straight forward nuclear weapons to eradicate our nation without such sci-fi. And we have more than enough to do the same to them.

That calculus still holds...and there is no need for something exotic like this.


30 posted on 11/17/2015 10:19:38 AM PST by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: gwgn02

>> Why chance it with an underwater torpedo?

Because with a sneaky underwater device, we’ll never know it was the rooskies. We’ll suspect Mexico or Canada, or maybe Iran.


31 posted on 11/17/2015 10:20:25 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

If the torpedo is detonated by the city then there is not much water to form a tsunami. If it is detonated far enough away to form a respectable tsunami it will not be of this magnitude. There is existing data from nuclear testing to tell us the likely size of the wall of water. Not 1000 feet tall, not nearly.


32 posted on 11/17/2015 10:22:51 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Norm Lenhart

Are you implying that the economic collapse blog is staffed by retards?

You would be correct.


33 posted on 11/17/2015 10:23:32 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: sefarkas

That was my first reaction as well. They’re probably taking weekly bets in Moscow over who can make Obama piss himself.


34 posted on 11/17/2015 10:24:03 AM PST by Made In The USA (Rap music: Soundtrack of the retarded.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Canada? Lol Mexico? Lol. Seriously, even an underwater launch from sub we would know with certainty who launched it...nothing is sneaky about nuke sub launches.


35 posted on 11/17/2015 10:26:17 AM PST by gwgn02
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Here's an interesting page concerning this subject.

Don't stop reading at the top. There's some meat lower down too.


After the events in Paris on 11/13, I will be adding
this to my posts for the next week. I'm certain our
turn is coming again soon. We stand united against
Islamic extremists.


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36 posted on 11/17/2015 10:26:45 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: Nervous Tick
Check the post I made just above. There has been at least some testing related to this.


After the events in Paris on 11/13, I will be adding
this to my posts for the next week. I'm certain our
turn is coming again soon. We stand united against
Islamic extremists.


Some music for reflection if the mood strikes you.
Courtesy of: Kartographer
beautiful [02:23]

An honorable mention also goes out to Lassana Bathily , a Muslim immigrant from Mali.
Mr. Bathily sheltered customers at the Jewish Deli and helped police by providing info
on the terrorists, and providing the location of survivors in the deli.
Courtesy of:
Tijera_Slim

37 posted on 11/17/2015 10:27:41 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: Nervous Tick
BTW: That was a funny retort...


After the events in Paris on 11/13, I will be adding
this to my posts for the next week. I'm certain our
turn is coming again soon. We stand united against
Islamic extremists.


Some music for reflection if the mood strikes you.
Courtesy of: Kartographer
beautiful [02:23]

An honorable mention also goes out to Lassana Bathily , a Muslim immigrant from Mali.
Mr. Bathily sheltered customers at the Jewish Deli and helped police by providing info
on the terrorists, and providing the location of survivors in the deli.
Courtesy of:
Tijera_Slim

38 posted on 11/17/2015 10:28:15 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: gwgn02

>> Seriously

No. LOL-y.


39 posted on 11/17/2015 10:29:11 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: amorphous

“I know that you are not just going to take my word for any of this. “

That’s the only thing he got right.


40 posted on 11/17/2015 10:30:08 AM PST by sparklite2 (Islam = all bathwater, no baby.)
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