Posted on 11/14/2015 2:48:45 PM PST by ScottWalkerForPresident2016
I wish to NOTIFY you that the bona-fides of four Republican Candidates to be President is hereby DISPUTED. It is claimed that the following persons do NOT meet the United States Constitutional requirement that one be a "Natural-Born Citizen" in order to be President under Article II, Sec. 1.
I am disputing the bona-fides of:
Marco Rubio - NOT an NBC. He was born in the U.S., however his parents were un-naturalized "permanent resident" Cuban citizens when he was born.
Ted Cruz - NOT an NBC. He was born in Canada to a Cuban father and American mother who may have natualized as a Canadian.
Bobby Jindal - NOT an NBC. He was born in the U.S. to parents who were un-naturalized citizens of Indiaa at the time of Bobby Jindal's bitth.
Rick Santorum - NOT an NBC. He was born in the U.S. to a father who was an Italian citizen not naturalized at the time of Rick Santorum's birth.
(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...
It appeals to the "laws of nature, and of nature's God". It identifies the philosophical foundation upon which it is based, and within the framework of that philosophical foundation, the meaning of "natural born" is defined.
Intellectually dishonest does not mean attempting to deceive, it means fooling yourself. It means wanting to believe something that is at odds with reality.
It is basically a stubborn refusal to follow where the evidence leads; To insist that it goes where you want it to go, even when it doesn't.
It is usually a form of delusion, where someone cannot grasp that they are mistaken.
Most legal scholars who have studied the question agree that includes an American born overseas to an American parent, such as Cruz.
What a tangled web we weave..The fact that Cruz is a citizen is not the issue..the fact that he is not a “Natural Born” citizen is. The only reason Buckwheat got away with it is because..well,..he’s Buckwheat.
No, but they disprove the rule. The natural law basis of citizenship (the foundation upon which the Declaration of Independence is based) do not have such exceptions. They are not needed.
The natural law foundation of citizenship fits perfectly with our existing history and requires no exceptions for Indians, Slaves, Diplomats, or the Children of British loyalists after the war of Independence.
Natural law wraps up the whole thing in one nice tidy package with no need for exceptions.
And that, I believe, is the accurate truth. Had Obama been white, he would have been stomped into the ground.
“What sets the office of the presidency apart is not the unique qualifications. What sets the office of the presidency apart is that the Constitution specifies how a President is to be chosen and specifies that a President is to be chosen by a constitutional group of constitutional actors called Electors. The only function of Electors is to choose a President and Vice-President. It is their exclusive bailiwick. There is absolutely no Constitutional basis for transferring any of their duties to courts. Further, there is no practical reason for doing so. There is absolutely no reason to believe that judges would be any better than Electors at evaluating the worthiness of candidates.
So, when you vote for a President, do your job and consider the qualifications of each candidate. The courts will not and cannot help you. ;-)
Catch 22. Till an injury has occurred, you have no standing to sue. After the injury has occurred, it's too late to sue.
> either through impeachment or the succession process set forth in the Twenty-Fifth Amendment
The succession process applies. When a person is removed due to a judicial determination that a person fails to meet Constitutional requirements this creates a vacancy in the office.
He IS a “Natural Born” citizen, and it HAS been PROVEN !
In addition to the other reason that I mentioned (political question doctrine), I do not believe that a court would ever wish to place itself in the position of stating that our Founding Fathers wanted courts to consider questions like the paternity of a candidate at least 35 years following birth (paternity being relevant to the question of parental citizenship, should that be deemed important). In those days, identifying biological mothers was much easier than identifying biological fathers, particularly several decades after birth of the candidate when many of the relevant witnesses may be dead or unavailable. And, then there are the residency questions. Is the candidate to show up with utility bills, etc? ;-)
I just do not believe that the Founding Fathers wanted courts involved in these questions and I do not believe that courts then or now wanted/want any part of it.
By the way, did you know that Tennessee once sent to Washington DC a 28 year old Senator despite the Constitutional requirement that a Senator by 30 years old? So did Virginia. And, then there was Henry Clay, who began serving as a U.S. Senator when he was 29 years old. People were not so picky in those days when it came to Constitutional qualifications.
OK so then where are the laws of nature and of nature's God written down?
PROJECTION is not your strong suite.
Judge Carter’s point was that there has never been such a judicial determination for a sitting president and he believes that its unlikely that there ever will be due to separation of powers. Such a determination of ineligibility is “the province of Congress.”
I don’t see two-thirds of the House or the Senate agreeing that Barack Obama would be unfit to resume his duties as President and thereby making Joe Biden acting President. Its really hard to get to 2/3rds.
The 25th Amendment Section 4:
“Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.”
He IS a “Natural Born†citizen, and it HAS been PROVEN !
If that is the undisputed truth..then why the thread?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
-PJ
I am Not really surprised that you didn't read the link I sent you.
The link you said did not mention natural-born citizenship. I figured if you could point me to where they are written down then I could see how they defined it.
So what part of that covers natural-born citizenship?
So what part of that covers natural-born citizenship?
If you have any familiarity with computer programing, I would inform you that it is a member of a class of objects. It is a daughter object of a general class of objects.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.