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Official Notice of Dispute challenges 4 candidates' NH eligibility (Cruz, Jindal, Rubio, Santorum)
The Post & Email ^
| 11/13/2015
| Robert Laity
Posted on 11/14/2015 2:48:45 PM PST by ScottWalkerForPresident2016
I wish to NOTIFY you that the bona-fides of four Republican Candidates to be President is hereby DISPUTED. It is claimed that the following persons do NOT meet the United States Constitutional requirement that one be a "Natural-Born Citizen" in order to be President under Article II, Sec. 1.
I am disputing the bona-fides of:
Marco Rubio - NOT an NBC. He was born in the U.S., however his parents were un-naturalized "permanent resident" Cuban citizens when he was born.
Ted Cruz - NOT an NBC. He was born in Canada to a Cuban father and American mother who may have natualized as a Canadian.
Bobby Jindal - NOT an NBC. He was born in the U.S. to parents who were un-naturalized citizens of Indiaa at the time of Bobby Jindal's bitth.
Rick Santorum - NOT an NBC. He was born in the U.S. to a father who was an Italian citizen not naturalized at the time of Rick Santorum's birth.
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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 2016; birthers; bs; cruz; jindal; naturalborncitizen; newhampshire; nh; rubio; santorum
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To: Ray76
The 14th Amendment is the WHOLE POINT, and is the ROOT of WHERE the change in LAW began !
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posted on
11/16/2015 10:58:31 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Ray76
The Constitution. Others have explained it. Fight them. I am not going down this pointless road. Thanks for the response. Nothing personal. I just don’t have time for it. Cruz has every legal right to run for President.
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posted on
11/16/2015 10:58:55 AM PST
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
To: DoodleDawg
So if an act of Congress says that people born here and who are subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. are citizens at birth then that means they aren't natural-born citizens. Again, you are too funny. :)
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posted on
11/16/2015 10:59:49 AM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: DiogenesLamp
Again, you are too funny. :) You're a hoot, too.
To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016
If someone is born in the US the status of their parents is irrelevant.
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posted on
11/16/2015 11:01:13 AM PST
by
mlo
To: Yosemitest
14th Amend
Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Was Cruz born or naturalized in the United States?
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posted on
11/16/2015 11:01:14 AM PST
by
Ray76
To: Ray76
I repost PROOF for those you have intentionally confused.
FACT: Cruzs fathers Cuban nationality at the time of Cruzs birth, is irrelevant, according to the law at that time,
just so long as he was a LEGAL Immigrant at the time of Ted Cruz's birth,
AND both of Ted Cruz's parents were legally married to each other.
What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986?
The 14th Amendment IS a part of the U.S. Constitution and states in SECTION 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
So, under that power to legislate, Congress legislated and the President signed into law: When ONE parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national,the US citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child,with five of the years after the age of 14.
... While there were initially rules regarding what the child must do to retain citizenship,amendments since 1952 HAVE ELIMINATED THESE REQUIREMENTS.
When Ted Cruz was born, his parents were "IN WEDLOCK".
They married, moved to Calgary, Alberta, and in late 1970 had their first and only child, Rafael Edward Cruz.
Cruz was born on December 22, 1970 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada where his parents, Eleanor Elizabeth Darragh Wilson and Rafael Bienvenido Cruz.
Cruz's mother was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware, in a family of three quarters Irish and one quarter Italian descent.
Eleanor Darragh, mother of Ted Cruz, was raised in Delaware, graduated from a Catholic High School (1952) in the U.S., as well as Rice University (1956),so clearly she meets the residency requirements.
Source
In 1957, Rafael Bienvenido Cruz (Ted Cruz's father) decided to get out of Cuba by applying to the University of Texas.
Upon being admitted, he adds, he got a four-year student visa at the U.S. Consulate in Havana.
"Since he liked to eat seven days a week, he worked seven days a week, and he paid his way through the University of Texas," Ted Cruz says of his father, "and then ended up getting a job and eventually going on to start a small business and to work towards the American dream."
Only he did that in Canada, where Ted was born.
His father went there after having earlier obtained political asylum in the U.S. when his student visa ran out.
He then got a green card, he says, and married Ted's mother, an American citizen.
The two of them moved to Canada to work in the oil industry.
"I worked in Canada for eight years," Rafael Cruz says. "And while I was in Canada, I became a Canadian citizen."
The elder Cruz says he renounced his Canadian citizenship when he finally became a U.S. citizen in 2005 48 years after leaving Cuba.
Why did he take so long to do it?"I don't know. I guess laziness, or I don't know," he says.
So there is the law for the time Ted Cruz was born,
AND HOW Ted Cruz's PARENTS fulfilled ALL those requirements of the law that time, for Ted Cruz to be a "Natural Born Citizen".
Ted Cruz did NOT NEED a Court and a Judge to "Nationalize" him.
Senator Cruz became a U.S. citizen at birth, and he never had to go through a naturalization process after birth to become a U.S. citizen, said spokeswoman Catherine Frazier.
... The U.S. Constitution allows only a natural born American citizen to serve as president.
Most legal scholars who have studied the question agree that includes an American born overseas to an American parent, such as Cruz.
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posted on
11/16/2015 11:03:08 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
I'm stating the FACT that TED CRUZ is a "Natural Born Citizen" under the LAW ! He is a citizen under Law. And that is precisely the point. A law had to be created by congress to make him into a citizen.
You need to leave out the word "natural". There is nothing natural about a condition bestowed upon you by a vote of men.
From the document that created US Citizenship:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
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posted on
11/16/2015 11:04:37 AM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: Yosemitest
This is at least the third time you have posted the exact same material, none of which cites and specific statute.
Yes, it is a document. Documents don’t naturalize persons, statutes do.
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posted on
11/16/2015 11:05:13 AM PST
by
Ray76
To: Ray76
cites and any specific statute.
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posted on
11/16/2015 11:06:32 AM PST
by
Ray76
To: DiogenesLamp
"You need to leave out the word "natural""
NO !
I do
not.
I WILL not !
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posted on
11/16/2015 11:06:33 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
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posted on
11/16/2015 11:06:51 AM PST
by
Ray76
To: mlo
If someone is born in the US the status of their parents is irrelevant. Unless they are a diplomat.
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posted on
11/16/2015 11:07:01 AM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: Ray76
You EXCELL in STUPIDITY !
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posted on
11/16/2015 11:07:53 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
NO ! I do not. I WILL not ! Well we understand that you are stubborn, we were just hoping for the possibility that you would be intellectually honest.
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posted on
11/16/2015 11:08:58 AM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: DiogenesLamp
From the document that created US Citizenship... So where does the Declaration of Independence define natural-born citizenship? Point that out and it would clear the whole thing up I would think.
To: DiogenesLamp
I'm not the ONE BEING DISHONEST !
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posted on
11/16/2015 11:10:03 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
Another duplicate post. What point are you trying to make?
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posted on
11/16/2015 11:11:21 AM PST
by
Ray76
To: DiogenesLamp
Unless they are a diplomat. Or a prisoner of war or other person not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S.
To: DiogenesLamp
"Unless they are a diplomat." Or an invading soldier. We know. Those minor exceptions don't involve any of these candidates.
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posted on
11/16/2015 11:12:38 AM PST
by
mlo
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