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1 posted on 11/12/2015 8:52:21 AM PST by jimbo123
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If they were cut off from all of their “benefits” such as welfare, scholarships, driver’s licenses and the ability to work, they would soon self deport.


28 posted on 11/12/2015 9:05:59 AM PST by onedoug
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Why can’t we deport 11 million people?

Mexico did.


29 posted on 11/12/2015 9:06:01 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Call Oklahoma for the plan:

By Ismael Estrada and Keith Oppenheim
CNN
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TULSA, Oklahoma (CNN) — Weeks of protests, rallies, lawsuits and candlelight vigils failed to stop a new state immigration bill — HB 1804 — from becoming the law in Oklahoma.

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Vigils like this one in Tulsa, Oklahoma, last week were unable to stop a tough new immigration law.

The law went into effect Thursday and is intended to make life difficult for illegal immigrants in Oklahoma.

Its authors say they’re sending a very clear message: If you’re an illegal immigrant, you are not welcome.

“I’m convinced illegal aliens will not come to Oklahoma, or any other state, if there are no jobs waiting for them.” said state Rep. Randy Terrill, a Republican and the law’s author.

“They will not stay here if there are not taxpayer subsidies and they certainly won’t stay here if they ever encounter one of our fine state and local law enforcement officials,” he added. “They’ll be physically detained — until they’re deported.”

The new law restricts the ability of illegal immigrants to obtain government IDs or public assistance. It also gives police authority to check the immigration status of anyone arrested, which can lead to deportations.

It doesn’t stop at illegal immigrants. The law also makes it a felony for U.S. citizens to knowingly provide shelter, transportation or employment to illegal immigrants.

The message has been received loud and clear. Many in Oklahoma’s Latino community say people are staying home, fearful police will arrest and deport them.

“They’re afraid they’re going to get deported. They’re just afraid,” said Alex Yoguez, a juice store owner who relies on Latino customers for her business to survive.

Yoguez said her business is normally filled with customers. “We are down 50 percent just today,” she said Thursday, the day the law went on the books.

Latino supporters are up in arms about the way the state now views illegal immigrants who have been here for many years.

“You are guilty of ethnic cleansing in this community! You are going against my community!” said the Rev. Miguel Rivera of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy.

The clergy group filed a federal lawsuit against the state saying the state has overstepped its bounds by enforcing immigration law, which is under federal jurisdiction. A hearing in the case is scheduled next week. An earlier attempt to get an injunction to prevent enforcement of the law was turned down by a judge.

It’s not yet clear how the law will be enforced. Illegal immigrants in Oklahoma fear police will use the law for roundups of anyone working and living in the state illegally.

“I don’t know if we’re going to be actively looking for them,” said Tulsa Police Capt. Steve Odom, who works in the Latino district of Tulsa. “If we come across them in the course of a call, or a course of an investigation, certainly we’ll take the appropriate action.”

The Tulsa Police Department said it has not received guidance from the district attorney’s office on how to enforce the law. The department points out that suspicion of illegal activity is not enough, and proving the intent of U.S. citizens is a challenge.

Still, many in Oklahoma say Latinos have been leaving by the thousands since the law was passed in May.

“We are losing a lot of business, a lot of business,” said Antonio Perez, who owns Mexican grocery stores. “I would say between the four stores we have lost about $300,000 a month in sales.”

So far, the absence of the Latinos on the streets may be the only visible result of the law


30 posted on 11/12/2015 9:06:08 AM PST by JayAr36 (How much more corruption will we willing to take from the Washington???????)
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You don’t have to round them up. Just deny them the freebee’s they came here for and they’ll self deport.


31 posted on 11/12/2015 9:06:10 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico

Eisenhower proved that if you catch and deport 1,000 illegal aliens, another 10,000 will flee the U.S. before they can be deported.

Obama proved that if you deport 0 illegal aliens, 10,000,000 more will flood across the border into the U.S.


32 posted on 11/12/2015 9:06:37 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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The pro-amnesty types like to portray the choice as being between mass deportation or a blanket amnesty. There are other alternatives including attrition thru enforcement. If we enforce our existing immigration laws, many will leave voluntarily. It is not necessary to round up the lawbreakers house by house.


33 posted on 11/12/2015 9:07:04 AM PST by kabar
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It is not unrealistic to think we can round up and expel eleven million Mexicans. We may have one hell of a fight but it can be done.


40 posted on 11/12/2015 9:15:27 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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There is no way Police Officers can catch and arrest all burglars, that isn't realistic. We should find another solution to this because if Officer's can't find and arrest ALL home burglars, then they should not even try and law makers need to forgive them.

Same philosophy.

41 posted on 11/12/2015 9:15:58 AM PST by GregoTX (Calling Illegal Aliens "immigrants" is like calling burglars "house residents")
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Use E-Verify for ALL employment and benefits, and fine employers who don’t.

The result will be rapid self-deportation.

THAT is “REALISTIC”!!!


42 posted on 11/12/2015 9:16:06 AM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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Unrealistic to round up Marco Rubio and expect him to govern in our best interests.


45 posted on 11/12/2015 9:17:30 AM PST by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. (Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.))
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Ted and Trump will destroy the amnesty twins, Jeb and Rubio.

Ted Cruz Hits GOP Field Over Immigration After Debate
NBC News ^ | Nov 12 2015 | Benjy Sarlin
Posted on 11/12/2015, 8:58:13 AM by ConservingFreedom

KINGSTON, New Hamsphire — Texas Sen. Ted Cruz hit on immigration topics early and often Wednesday in his first public event a day after the Republican presidential debate, looking to sharpen contrasts with GOP rivals — including Senator Marco Rubio — on the contentious issue.

“Last night, you listened to one Republican after another who said, ‘Gosh, it would be mean to enforce our immigration laws,’” Cruz said at a Veterans Day town hall in New Hampshire.

“And I would point out, by the way, everyone talks about how compassionate it is to grant amnesty to 12 million people here illegally,” Cruz said. “They’re very compassionate, but it’s not very compassionate if I say, ‘I’m going to give away your job.’ That’s the opposite of compassion.”

Cruz’s aides have promised an increased effort to highlight policy differences with his rivals, and his remarks teed up a primary race increasingly headed for a collision over immigration.

Rubio — who co-authored and then renounced a failed bipartisan immigration reform bill in 2013 — is gaining momentum, and Donald Trump is still performing strongly while calling for a new “deportation force” to remove all undocumented immigrants in rapid order.

Dr. Ben Carson said at a Virginia event on Wednesday that he favored allowing otherwise law-abiding undocumented immigrants to earn legal status if they registered with the government and the border was secure.

Rubio and Cruz both currently advocate putting in place new border security measures before considering possible legal status for undocumented immigrants.

Asked by MSNBC whether there was any significant daylight between their positions, however, Cruz made clear that he wouldn’t let Rubio off the hook for his prior record.

“It is not complicated that on the seminal fight over amnesty in Congress, the Gang of Eight bill that was the brainchild of Chuck Schumer and Barack Obama, that would have granted amnesty to 12 million people here illegally, that I stood with the American people and led the fight to defeat it in the United States Congress,” Cruz said.

He added that nominating a clear “amnesty” opponent was essential to Republican chances for victory, since conservatives won’t turn out for a candidate they view as weak on the issue.

“In my view, if Republicans nominate for president a candidate who supports amnesty, we will have given up one of the major distinctions with Hillary Clinton and we will lose the general election — that is a path to losing,” Cruz said.

Tuesday’s Fox Business Network/Wall Street Journal debate featured an extended exchange over immigration in which Trump repeated his calls for a border wall and expanded deportations, while Ohio Gov. John Kasich and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush decried his proposals as inhumane, unworkable and politically counterproductive.

The topic comes up often at Republican events in New Hampshire, and Cruz

received several related questions. One woman asked about his prior support during the 2013 immigration debate for legislation expanding H1B visas for high skilled workers.

Cruz, citing recent reports of abuses by large companies to facilitate outsourcing, said he was working on a bill with Sen. Jeff Sessions — a leading GOP hawk on immigration — to “fundamentally change the H1B program.”

“These stories are horrifying, those stories are a serious abuse of the program,” Cruz said.

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51 posted on 11/12/2015 9:20:42 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("If you use FR and don't donate. Thgat means that you are a Left Wing or Rino plant, to be ignored!)
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No every one, Marco.

Just you.


52 posted on 11/12/2015 9:23:01 AM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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His point, and its 100% correct, is the METHOD used. E-verify, hold back welfare, subsidies and so on, closure of consulates, tax wire transfers. They will leave in droves.

you’re welcome.


54 posted on 11/12/2015 9:25:24 AM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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His point, and its 100% correct, is the METHOD used. E-verify, hold back welfare, subsidies and so on, closure of consulates, tax wire transfers. They will leave in droves.

you’re welcome.


55 posted on 11/12/2015 9:25:24 AM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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Impose asset forfeiture on illegals, and they’ll leave of their own volition.


57 posted on 11/12/2015 9:27:23 AM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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...but it is realistic to ignore immigration laws and hand out citizenships to anyone who can get their piggy toes across the border.


60 posted on 11/12/2015 9:32:18 AM PST by mom.mom
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What's the big trick? Slam the employers. 5 years in jail, per illegal employee, or how about a fine based on 20% of taxable value of the business, per illegal?

Oklahoma made illegals too expensive to hire, and they headed for greener pastures, much to the relief of the local Hispanic community. The 20 to an apartment landlords were annoyed, the Chinese buffet owners who would supply a car, in one of their name's, Spanish porn on cable, sometimes even mattresses. The illegals were worked from 9 to midnight, 7 days a week.

It was also amazing how the one I knew would rifle the till every day for his gambling debts, (He'd bet on any and everything.), and forget his English when inspectors dropped by, until they wanted a "fee".

61 posted on 11/12/2015 9:35:04 AM PST by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted... This time, it's not.)
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Rubio is constructing his excuses for implementing Amnesty For All if he is elected.


64 posted on 11/12/2015 9:43:10 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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The way that deportations have been going up with each administration, why is it so hard to believe Trump can continue the upward trend?

As of March 8, the Obama administration had deported 2,087,456 people since fiscal 2009, according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement statistics.

By comparison, the U.S. deported 2,012,539 people under Bush; 869,646 people under President Bill Clinton; 141,326 under President George H.W. Bush; and 168,364 people under President Ronald Reagan, according to ICE statistics.

65 posted on 11/12/2015 9:45:17 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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Enforce existing immigration laws and I believe they would self deport - at least most - no employment, no welfare.


67 posted on 11/12/2015 9:46:40 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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