Posted on 11/11/2015 6:18:36 AM PST by Isara
Ted Cruz had a terrific night. He had a stand-out answer on immigration and wages, and made his own fortune by getting into an argument with John Kasich on bank bailouts, enunciating the anti-bailout position forcefully and repeatedly (although I don't really believe he wouldn't bail out a major financial institution in the midst of a financial panic if he were president). He was pointed, eloquent, and, of course, very conservative.
Marco Rubio was very good, as well. But I thought Rubio was slightly better than Cruz last time, and that Cruz was slightly better this time. Rubio just felt a little off. Journalists were complaining on Twitter about how canned Rubio is, and truth be told, he is during these events (as are Cruz and Carly Fiorina). The trick is hiding it and tonight Rubio seemed to be more obviously downloading speech fragments than in other debates. That said, he won the exchange with Rand Paul on foreign policy, ably defended his child tax credit, and didn't have an affirmatively bad moment.
Both Cruz and Rubio are highly capable of defending themselves. You really never have to worry about them in an exchange, and that quality will stand them in good stead going forward.
Ben Carson was pleasant. He predictably hit the question about his bio out of the park and brought up politically correctness at the end. He, once again, wasn't commanding on the substance, but it hasn't mattered to this point.
Donald Trump was largely subdued, although he perked up to slap down Kasich and broadcast how he has let Fiorina get under his skin with his complaint about her interrupting that got boos. He obviously knows nothing about the TPP that he so passionately opposes, and Rand Paul showed him up on that. He's also at sea on foreign policy. Overall, a more respectable, but still poor showing.
Jeb Bush was definitely better, but just OK. He seemed to lose momentum as the night went on. But it should be enough to stem a potential donor panic.
Carly Fiorina had several nice riffs, and a cutting line at Trump's expense (she met Vladimir Putin and not in a green room).
Rand Paul allowed himself to be Rand Paul. It was his best debate, even if it's hard to see it helping him much.
John Kasich, irritable and out of step with the party, may end up buying himself a ticket to the undercard.
Speaking of that, Chris Christie was the best performer in the early debate, even if he didn't attempt to defend his New Jersey record from Bobby Jindal's repeated jibes. Christie effectively brushed Jindal off, but the Louisiana governor certainly got across the message that he wanted to-that he disdains big government Republicans.
Is the National Review GOPe?
I call him Marco Robotio.
He has answers memorized and he is determined to Rat-a-Tat-Tat out those answers whether they have anything to do with the question he was asked or not.
IMHO it is establishment GOP at this time, yes.
IMHO it is establishment GOP at this time, yes.
Rich s analysis is spot on.
Are you saying you wouldn’t let it fail? The federal government only insures (I think the first 200k).
I say let it fail every time.
If everyone is willing to make a deal, they always deal it away when the pressure comes. It's like abortion. What kind of "compromise can you make on abortion? You either have a dead baby or a live one. Their really is no middle ground other than maybe placing limits on the age of the fetus. If we placed a strict limit say at 21 weeks or so, you might get enough votes to pass something, but that still murders many children. Other than something on that order, we are stuck with murder, anytime, any age, anywhere. Taxes are what we could compromise on, but little else. How about sodomy? Some could get married while others not? Their are just some things that can't be compromised on.
If you broke the law to get in here, you have to go back. Nothing short of that should even be considered. I don't want lawless people as citizens. People forget if you just come illegally, you brak many other laws with that. They drive without insurance, no licence, can't read road signs, ID's with wrong names and addy's, sign up for bennies they can't qualify for, ect. SCOTUS said we must educate them, but why don't the schools turn in their names to ICE? The school gets paid for body's, not just legal ones. Fine the schools for illegals in their classes and offer rewards for turning them in.
Their are hundreds of ideas, but we seem to lack the will of the people in the people in charge. Rubio will be just one more that doesn't "get it".
It’s about making sure it doesn’t fail....
Most definitely. I was told that lots of folks on social media came over to his side during the debate.
You know, IMO what’s even more important than who won last night is the fact that the real Cruz is making himself known on a national basis. Going forward, this is the man we’ll be seeing...the forceful, brook-no-BS candidate who can dominate the stage and eviscerate the opposition, yet do so with intelligence and grace.
Every political discussion need its comic relief
the “Firebrand” Lives
What I want to know is why no candidate mentioned that the banks mentioned were FDIC insured. Small depositors are not going to lose their savings, unless they keep $100k+ in a bank account returning .5% interest.
And making JP Morgan Chase take bailout money (they were the only large financial institution who were not heavily vested in high risk mortgage investments). They begged Chase to take on WaMu vs. collapse and Dimon only took it on with assurances from the Feds that they back the takeover hence JPMC took money. When they absorbed the bank writhing 9 months sought to immediately give the money back early but the government wouldn’t allow it (they stil wanted control). A dirty little secret most do not know about that Chase was not at risk, did not want the money but were cornered to take on one that failed WaMu.
It isn’t government’s job to make sure businesses don’t fail by passing regulations. If government wants to make sure businesses don’t fail by repealing regulatory laws then I am OK with that.
During his spiel about how the most important job anyone can have is that of being a parent, Rubio slipped once and said "President" when he meant to say "parent."
This graph is not user-friendly to me.
John Kasich, irritable and out of step with the party, may end up buying himself a ticket to the undercard.
However, Kasich is exactly IN step with the party, which is why he shouldn't be taken seriously.
Cruz has been winning all along, but everyone was so enamoured by Trump that they couldn’t see it!
Cruz Or Lose!
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