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To: springwater13

The Carson defenders are unreal, all because the story is from Politico. Carson at best embellished. I believe he knowingly lied. As a service academy graduate, they do not fling “scholarships” around. The entire process is long, drawn out, requires an appointment from a congressman or senator and you most certainly know when you receive an appt. It’s a big deal and they trot you out to your congresscritter or senator for the dog and pony show. Still have my picture with Bill Bradley. In fact, the Army even denies that Westmoreland was in Detroit when Carson said he was. So yes, I believe Ben has knowingly peddled a false story for years.


10 posted on 11/06/2015 11:20:52 AM PST by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: usafa92

Re: the Army denial

They confirmed that Westmoreland did attend a banquet in Detroit honoring the medal winners a couple of months later.

Carson did not explicitly say the banquet was on the same day as the parade. He said “afterward.”

I believe he attended the banquet, met Westmoreland, and was offered a nomination by either Westmoreland or other military officials who attended. Carson was the top JROTC cadet in Detroit with excellent grades. Such an offer is totally believable and highly likely.

The Facebook post saying he was offered a slot is the problem for me. There can be no confusion on terminology there.


32 posted on 11/06/2015 11:35:01 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: usafa92
If I remember correctly, it requires a nomination from a congressman or senator, but that even a nomination does not guarantee an appointment.

There are a few ways an individual can obtain an "automatic" appointment - being the child of a CMH winner is one, and I cannot remember any others - but for the most part appointments are made only after one has been nominated, and then had one's nominations carefully and thoroughly vetted by the Academy in question.

Is that correct?

35 posted on 11/06/2015 11:35:48 AM PST by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: usafa92
Carson at best embellished. I believe he knowingly lied. As a service academy graduate, they do not fling “scholarships” around.

My family had dinner with an Army general one evening. He pretty much guaranteed that if my boy wanted to go to North Georgia and join the Corps of Cadets he could make it happen.

So, yes, I could see a bright, poor black kid from Detroit getting a "guarantee" if he applied.

55 posted on 11/06/2015 11:43:06 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama = ISIS Fanboy)
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To: usafa92

The “Army” as related by the MSM sychophants pulling a “quote”. The Army doesn’t know from 1970 with Westmoreland. He was in Detroit and met with JROTC and ROTC— it was a different time.. Lots of baby brain surgeries since those days, and not the “point and click” era, to require a down to the hour recollection. He didn’t want the military in his life- and few did in 1970 during Vietnam/Nixon. That IS a fact, thanks to the very same sniveling MSM. USNA 1947.


69 posted on 11/06/2015 11:50:34 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: usafa92
In fact, the Army even denies that Westmoreland was in Detroit when Carson said he was.

It has in fact been shown that Westmoreland was indeed in Detroit at that time, so please stop posting this lie. Or are you with Politico?

108 posted on 11/06/2015 12:41:26 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (Those that can, do, those that can't, work in the Beltway.)
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