Posted on 10/30/2015 8:14:22 AM PDT by Amntn
This could be a YUGE shift amid the 2016 political continuum. According to media reports the Donald Trump and Ben Carson camps are currently organizing a meeting to discuss future debates.
The RNC is not currently invited.
There are two aspects inherent within this dynamic that cannot be over emphasized:
* First - Similar to the DNC tactics, by RNC Rule the candidates are barred from participating in, or organizing, debates that are outside of the Republican National Committee.
* Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, the RNC is Team Bush.
The RNC, as a current political construct, is a wholly owned subsidiary of the political dynasty known as the Bush Family. Currently, Jeb Bush is the candidate of the Bush family, and by extension the candidate of the RNC. Understanding this political dynamic is key to understanding the RNC/GOPe road map to nominate their candidate regardless of political opposition therein.
If Trump and Carson gather up enough support to strike against the RNC/GOPe apparatus there will be an internal war similar to the war within the republican party in 1978/1979. You might remember candidate Ronald Reagan organizing and paying for debates too.
When you combine this reality with the strategic deal-making acumen of Donald Trump, the scope of the needed popcorn buckets increases exponentially.
It is interesting, and brutally obvious to note, the Bush Team are absent from the initial media announcement:
[...] On Thursday, many of the campaigns told POLITICO that the RNC, which has taken a greater role in the 2016 debate process than in previous election cycles, had failed to take their concerns into account. It was time, top aides to at least half a dozen of the candidates agreed, to begin discussing among themselves how the next debates should be structured and not leave it up to the RNC and television networks.
The gathering is being organized by advisers to the campaigns of Donald Trump, Ben Carson, Bobby Jindal and Lindsey Graham, according to multiple sources involved in the planning. Others who are expected to attend, organizers say, are representatives for Carly Fiorina, Mike Huckabee, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio and Rick Santorum. The planners are also reaching out to other Republican candidates.
Spokespersons for the RNC did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
"I think the campaigns have a number of concerns and they have a right to talk about that amongst themselves," said Christian Ferry, Graham's campaign manager. The objective, Ferry said, was to "find out what works best for us as a group."
The RNC/GOPe are in a tight spot, and because Jeb Bush has his back against the wall, due to recent campaign/debate collapses, their ability to influence other candidates away from the meeting and subsequent conversation only adds additional leverage toward Team Trump and Team Carson.
This will be interesting...
A Possibility - Given the nature of their business interests and specific experience with broadcast production and media etc., it would be entirely possible for Team Trump to coordinate an independent debate format controlled and coordinated by people within his network group and contracted to meet the needs of each campaign.
Team Trump knows how to put on the event, how to coordinate the entire venture, and how to contract -for profit- the broadcast rights to any media outlet of their collective choosing. The campaigns would not only be in control of the venue, moderators and debate format, they could effectively profit from the associated revenue.
It would be beyond wonderful to see the RNC apparatus removed from the business end of selling their candidates to piranha left-wing media.
Obviously this would expose the RNC/GOPe machine to a loss of control and power. As a consequence, Team Bush would not look favorably upon such a possibility.
He did mention that in his rally in Nevada yesterday, how he takes deals and makes better ones out of them...I wonder if this was what he was referring to?
You just have to love ‘The Donald’....!!!
Trump may prefer Cruz as AG, for all we know ;-)
IF you read my post, you would see that IT was MY opinion, I didn’t say he was GOING to.....
I haven’t trash talked any candidate. Trump, Carson and Cruz are all fighting the good fight, in my book. I’ve posted this, in fact.
I’m not sure I understand your post.
That would work
I said...’ All due respect’ ....and I absolutely mean it!
I totally respect your posts!!!
I read this story and realized that Trump is truly unpredictable. The RNC must be in total self destruct mode. Trump is now taking over and replacing them with his own organization.
This is simply amazing. Trump wants a fight with the RNC and at least 60% of the Republican base wants that fight too. They are so far on the losing end.
Trump is simply amazing.
I watched Megyn for the first time since Debate I because Luntz was tweeting about the focus group, and he gave his report her show. She has become a lot more angry in the last couple of months than I ever remember.
There's even room for Carson in Trump's cabinet...but who knows what Trump will do, he really likes being ‘unpredictable’ lol
Thanks.
I still find it hard to believe that Trump is willing to put himself on the line for this.
When you think of all he is willing to give up in order to run, and hopefully serve, it puts real meaning in the term “Public Service”
If Dr. Carson is involved in this effort he deserves due credit.
Thank you Guenevere...;>)
Drudge used to post ratings for the various news shows. He doesn’t any more, but I’d be interested to see how the pre and post debate numbers look.
I think BOR, for example, is now beating her reliably again - post debate.
OH I want the election TODAY!!! Why do we have to wait???
LOLOL
Absolutely.
In fact everyone involved does. I just posted the picture of Trump/Cruz because that is my preference.
Agree, agree....
“Trump likes being unpredictable”....that, he does :)
Keep on rolling, Trump Train!
Was she “bleeding”?
snorkel...snorkel
:-)
Trump is awesome! He is shaking everything up and working outside the box. This is so earth shattering for the Establishment (and other Trump haters). How do they handle a man who is running for president but isn’t limiting himself to the status quo methods! OMG! Double face palm!
What do you think about this? Not nearly enough....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3354680/posts
Either the come up with a list of changes with leverage and get these changes or do they "go rogue" and set up their own debates? Consider the shockwave it would be if they set up their own moderator(s), panelist, ( you can name who we want on the dias ) location(s) and multiple media streams including; "The Blaze" NPR ( if they are willing ) PBS, CSPAN, YouTube, and a host of talk radio outlets...
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