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BEN CARSON SKETCHES PLAN FOR DEALING WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS (Citizenship for guest workers)
Powerline ^ | 9/13/15 | PAUL MIRENGOFF

Posted on 10/24/2015 8:41:40 AM PDT by jimbo123

During an appearance of Face the Nation, Dr. Ben Carson took a stab today at outlining how he would deal with the issue of illegal immigration. After criticizing Donald Trump’s concept of deporting every illegal immigrant (and then readmitting “the good ones”), Carson said this:

[L]et’s say we get [the borders] sealed, because certainly in a Carson administration that would be done within the first year. You also turn off the spigot that dispenses the goodies, so that people don’t have any incentive to come here.

Then those who are here, we have to recognize that we can’t just round them up, but we can give them an opportunity to register. I would give them a six-month period.

If they register, and if they have a pristine record, they haven’t been causing problems, I would give them an opportunity to become guest workers — not citizens, not voting people, not people who get goodies. I think that would be a fair way to do it.

In terms of them becoming citizens later on down the road if they’ve done things the right way, we the American people will decide what the criteria for that ought to be.

Most of the commentary I’ve seen about Carson’s statement has focused on the guest worker idea. I’ll get to it in a moment.

My biggest concern, though, is with Carson’s proposal eventually to establish criteria for illegal immigrants becoming “citizens. . .down the road if they’ve done things the right way.” By definition, those who are here illegally have not “done things the right way.” They should be barred from becoming U.S. citizens.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; amnestypimp; bencarson; cantbepresident; carson; chamberofamnesty; elections; farrakhan; guestworkers; illegals; islam; trump
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To: I Hired Craig Livingstone

That’s part of it.

We also like to think that we’re above identity politics, and that only liberals play those games. But there’s a fair amount of well-meaning people on our side who’ll throw their support behind anyone claiming to be of their denomination.


121 posted on 10/24/2015 7:55:59 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: jimbo123

Buh-Bye, Ben


122 posted on 10/24/2015 8:43:30 PM PDT by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: highball

Please, go sip a Martini ... In fact, have two, or three.


123 posted on 10/24/2015 8:48:44 PM PDT by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Do you think that employers should be allowed to import as much foreign labor as they want?


124 posted on 10/24/2015 10:05:43 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Yep, the employers privatize the profits and socialize the costs. The taxpayers are picking up the tab for health care, education, and incarceration not to mention the millions of victims of criminal alien crime.


125 posted on 10/24/2015 10:07:32 PM PDT by kabar
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To: jimbo123

Who does he decide gets guest workers? Can I build a one hundred acre industrial compound and have 10,000 imported laborers working there? I can make a lot of money for which I will pay taxes. Will also tank all the wages of the citizen workers in my community which should make the Democrats and Republicans happy.


126 posted on 10/24/2015 10:13:31 PM PDT by Perchant
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To: kabar
Do you think that employers should be allowed to import as much foreign labor as they want?

No. I say get them out of the country, period. Train Americans to take those jobs or devise automation to pick our food, mop our floors, and wash our sheets. Given that I propose a MUCH more effective way of getting illegals (and potential terrorists) out of the country than Trump does, such a rhetorical "question" is beyond bizarre.

127 posted on 10/24/2015 10:16:16 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Despotism to liberalism: from Tiberius to Torquemada, and back again.)
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To: Carry_Okie

You stated previously that the government should not be issuing work permits. You are against mandatory e-verify—something Trump is for.

Do you want any caps on H1B visas?


128 posted on 10/24/2015 10:49:49 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
You stated previously that the government should not be issuing work permits. You are against mandatory e-verify—something Trump is for.

That is correct. I prefer to expel illegals. Believe me, by the means I propose, they would be bolting the country so fast there would be traffic jams at the borders.

Do you want any caps on H1B visas?

I don't want H1B visas at all. If a person wants to immigrate and be a citizen, then assess the application. I prefer that we be like Switzerland. That said, building a larger population of tech workers is coincident with that goal. It attracts investment and builds the critical mass that made Silicon Valley richer.

129 posted on 10/24/2015 10:56:36 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Despotism to liberalism: from Tiberius to Torquemada, and back again.)
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To: jimbo123

>>>If they register, and if they have a pristine record, they haven’t been causing problems, I would give them an opportunity to become guest workers — not citizens, not voting people, not people who get goodies<<<

As Rush has said, the minute a Bill gets Passed in Congress doing this, Schumer would be out in front of the Cameras railing on about these poor People who have become Second Class Citizens, like the Black Folks were (or is it still are).

Heck, we already have Illegals Voting anyway.


130 posted on 10/24/2015 11:06:01 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Democrats don't have Debates, they have Auctions.)
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To: Jane Long
So, Mr N00b.... You’re not a fan of citizenship for illegal s but you support Carson, who is. Oh, and you don’t trust Trump, who will DEPORT illegals

You are a newbie yourself if you want to get right down to it. Basically using that line of reasoning only JimRob would have ability to hold any correct opinion on FR.

I could judge by your tagline you (if sincerely Christian) probable would exclude those that only proclaim Jesus when it suit them. That would leave you not coming close to Trump who waves a Bible in one hand and promotes his own book in the other (see Mobile Alabama speech a month ago). Trump's god is himself.

131 posted on 10/24/2015 11:49:49 PM PDT by LowOiL ("Let us do evil that good may come"? ....condemnation is just - Romans 3:8)
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To: American Dream 246
Bttt

I will not vote for ben carson

Just speak softly and smile at them...
the charade in the house...
and lois lerner simply made bad decisions...

Why should I care about elections anymore.

The only people who have to obey the law,
are the people tolerating the dictators and unelected judges making it up as they go along.

I say they deserve a president Hillary.

Maybe they all need a good dose of her wrath once she has unlimited power and all the taxpayer bucks she can spend to do it with.
132 posted on 10/25/2015 6:27:12 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: jimbo123

Ben Carson is poser conservative.

He hates our traditional American culture as much as Rubio, Kasich, JEB, and Obama.

He shouldn’t even be on the list....


133 posted on 10/25/2015 6:32:45 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: jimbo123

Carson lost me on this as far as I am concerned.


134 posted on 10/25/2015 7:50:45 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: jimbo123

Meant to say no he got me


135 posted on 10/25/2015 7:51:54 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: pleasenotcalifornia

This finishes Carson. Nice to know ya.


136 posted on 10/25/2015 12:03:42 PM PDT by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: mkjessup

LOL!


137 posted on 10/25/2015 12:05:14 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Mariner; All

Explanation of the problematic beliefs of 7th Day Adventists:

http://christinprophecy.org/articles/the-seventh-day-adventists/


138 posted on 10/25/2015 7:23:27 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: jimbo123

Illegals shouldn’t be here at all. They should be forced to go home where they can use what they learned from their time here to help build up their own countries.


139 posted on 10/26/2015 2:58:17 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: V K Lee

Big trouble ahead


140 posted on 10/27/2015 4:54:49 AM PDT by V K Lee (TRUMP to triumph follow the step! TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP MAKING AMERICA GREAT)
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