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Carson surges past Trump in Iowa. [2nd poll Carson up big]
The Hill ^ | 10/23/2015 | Jesse Byrnes

Posted on 10/23/2015 4:23:01 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Ben Carson has plowed past Donald Trump in a second poll of Iowa voters released on Friday.

Carson wins 28 percent of likely Republican caucus-goers in Iowa, according to the Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register poll, while Trump gets 19 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2016election; amnesty; bencarson; clubforgrowth; davidmcintosh; election2016; hib; iowa
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To: Red Steel

Levin is right. Nazis like the GOPe will do anything they can to prevent Trump.


121 posted on 10/23/2015 7:21:09 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: dforest

He has grabbed as many guns as trump.


122 posted on 10/23/2015 7:22:21 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Who are you backing, then?


123 posted on 10/23/2015 7:24:38 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: Red Steel

LOL, yeah right. And the other poll that just came out showing Carson ahead of Trump in Iowa? A coincidence? Or also a media conspiracy push poll? And what about the new one in Wisconsin showing Carson leading? So these polls are all starting to roll in showing Carson adding support while Trump is sliding, and you come up with some nonsense to dismiss today’s poll.

Hey, remember the “Unskewed polls” guy? Who claimed Mitt Romney was really winning the election because the polls were all skewed or setup as push polls to benefit Obama. How did that work out for him? He later just had to admit he was completely wrong and the polls were pretty accurate afterall.

I think a more reasonable explanation for Trump’s fall in a couple of very recent polls is that some thing or event caused a sizable percentage of Republicans to move away from him. My guess is it was the 9-11 truther claptrap Trump started spewing. I suspect it alienated a lot of Republicans who may not much like GW Bush in most regards, but remember him very fondly for his actions post 9-11. Most people, other than nuts like Michael Moore, paulbots and assorted conspiracy wackos avoid truther nonsense.

Then again, this could just be a meaningless polling blip - or it could be folks are just tired and becoming bored with Trumps shtick. Still too early to tell. It will takes weeks to see if there is any real trend.


124 posted on 10/23/2015 7:25:41 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: sitetest

Have you read Sundance’s “Roadmap to GOPe 2016 Victory” at The Conservative Treehouse, sitetest?


125 posted on 10/23/2015 7:27:32 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: Popman

I’m not sure the farmers, dairy folks and the salt of the earth Iowan are buying his Schick...

How much leg work has Trump done in Iowa...?


ICYMI, Trump spoke to thousands, more than the venue ever had before, in Burlington, IA a couple of nights ago. I encourage you so search FR and you’ll find the numerous threads. Also, according to Repub party leadership in Iowa, Trump has a very strong ground game in IA. That’s on FR, too.

This is nothing more than Carson 2.0 by the media, GOPe, etc. It will, like all other contrived surges, fade and fail.


126 posted on 10/23/2015 7:28:04 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject"he)
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To: Longbow1969; Red Steel

Dear Longbow: Would you consider Rove’s anti McCain push polls in NC primary in 2000 “nonsense”?

Do you understand what a push poll is?

LOL


127 posted on 10/23/2015 7:30:24 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
What I'm telling ya is that almost nobody on FR supports Bush, and that people like me who oppose Trump on FR are doing it because they DON'T LIKE TRUMP.

Correct. You really have to just ignore the insults from Trumpsters. If you don't support their hero Trump, they will call you GOPe, RINO, Jeblover, Bush plant, etc, etc. These are just the kneejerk insults they use. They think if they can tar you as a Jeb, RINO, GOPe, etc, supporter than you'll just go away or let them dominate the forums.

Trump is NOT a conservative. Period. You are right to be critical of "the Donald". Don't let the Trump cultists drive you away or keep you from posting your thoughts on Trump, whatever candidate you prefer, etc.

128 posted on 10/23/2015 7:31:22 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: petercooper

Not buying it. Or are these the 4 million crybabies who sat home in 2012?


I’m buying it. Carson has become this election cycles Huckabee/Santorum type candidate with the added bonus of having a nice a tan. He’s a big nothing burger politically but his low key speeches make some people comfortable.


129 posted on 10/23/2015 7:31:40 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: sitetest

Even if so, that’s only 2 questions that are ‘negative’ vs. the other 8. Number 2 turned out to be a wash for Carson. Even if it was intended to be a “Negative” it wasn’t held against him not much whatsoever since Carson won the poll.

Enjoy Trump winning the GOP primary because that is going to happen in about 40 to 45 states.


130 posted on 10/23/2015 7:31:50 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

If those questions were asked first then the poll is FRAUDULENT and they should be taken to task for their deception. I’m suspicious because they didn’t give the order in which questions were asked.


131 posted on 10/23/2015 7:31:55 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (DUmmie Skinner: Bought & Paid For By Hillary)
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To: 3boysdad

I’m positive that carson has very strong behind the scenes support from major corporate CEO’s

He is because they went looking and found him

there is much more there there than is apparent


132 posted on 10/23/2015 7:31:59 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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To: Sontagged

I sure do know what a push poll is, and this isn’t one of them.

If you’d like more information on what a push poll actually is, perhaps this will help:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_poll

Do you understand what a trend is? 3 polls that show your hero dropping in the polls from Iowa to Wisconsin.

LOL


133 posted on 10/23/2015 7:34:24 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Dr. Sivana
Quite often the elections in Maryland are actually decided in the primaries, whatever the party.

It did strike me as strange that he changed to a Republican at the end of October last year and now is running for president.

134 posted on 10/23/2015 7:34:31 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: petercooper

Forget it Jake, it’s Iowa.


135 posted on 10/23/2015 7:36:28 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Longbow1969; Red Steel; Jane Long; hoosiermama

Trump is not my hero. But he is the most conservative GOP candidate right now, because of Cruz’s recent treasonous votes.

I love turning your Roveisms upside down. It’s so easy to do once you realize the GOPe are liberals and traitors.


136 posted on 10/23/2015 7:37:16 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: Longbow1969
LOL, yeah right. And the other poll that just came out showing Carson ahead of Trump in Iowa? A coincidence? Or also a media conspiracy push poll? And what about the new one in Wisconsin showing Carson leading? So these polls are all starting to roll in showing Carson adding support while Trump is sliding, and you come up with some nonsense to dismiss today’s poll.

LoL, it is right. It's obvious 8 of those questions were designed for Carson to get a positive score.

Then again, this could just be a meaningless polling blip - or it could be folks are just tired and becoming bored with Trumps shtick. Still too early to tell. It will takes weeks to see if there is any real trend.

Not long to go now when the GOPe get their butts handed to them in the election. Next year is coming fast. I'm going to enjoy it.

137 posted on 10/23/2015 7:38:06 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: GIdget2004

Whole poll here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/286605246/Bloomberg-Politics-Des-Moines-Register-Iowa-Poll-Oct-23-2015-release


138 posted on 10/23/2015 7:38:06 AM PDT by Ironfocus (Texas! Cruz 2016!)
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To: sitetest

Cultist? Lord? Nonsense.

You’re over the top with that silliness.


139 posted on 10/23/2015 7:40:51 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Longbow1969; Red Steel

Trump is the most conservative GOP candidate now. And he is heroic because he is the only one trying to destroy the Establishment Uniparty.


140 posted on 10/23/2015 7:40:54 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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