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Is this text of Obama executive action on guns?
WND ^ | October 20, 2015 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 10/21/2015 11:06:02 AM PDT by Perseverando

The highly influential Center for American Progress, widely considered the “idea factory” for the Obama administration, has drawn up a blueprint for presidential executive action on gun control that goes beyond media descriptions of the proposal being weighed by the White House.

Since the mass shooting in Roseburg, Oregon, earlier this month, it’s been widely reported that President Obama is considering circumventing Congress with executive action to tighten federal law on gun sales.

NBC News quoted administration officials saying Obama’s major gun-control proposal would set specific guidelines for who is legally defined as a licensed gun dealer, since all licensed dealers are required to conduct background checks before conducting any sales.

The proposal, NBC News reported, would set quotas on yearly gun sales for individuals to qualify as legally being “in the business” of selling guns once they sell a certain number and thus become subject to all laws for gun dealers.

The news agency quoted sources revealing the White House is considering setting the quota at 50 or 100 gun sales per year as the threshold to trigger the requirements, although the sources added the administration has not formally settled on a specific number.

The reports of an executive action focus on a federal law that requires anyone “engage[d] in the business” of “dealing in firearms” to obtain a federal firearms license from ATF and become a licensed gun dealer.

Every licensed gun dealer is then mandated to conduct background checks prior to completing each gun sale.

Currently, the federal statute defines those “in the business” of gun sales as follows:

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
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To: Perseverando

licensed dealers are required to conduct background checks before conducting any sales.

No they are not.

They are required to have a purchaser fill out the appropriate forms to submit to law enforcement, who are then required to perform the background checks.


41 posted on 10/21/2015 1:11:13 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: bruoz
It is against Federal law

And we all know the government and its agencies are law abiding.
42 posted on 10/21/2015 1:12:28 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. – Robert Heinlein)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot
My local FFL moves more guns in a weekend than the proposed figure for a license. If you're going to go into the business, you might as well get the FFL and do it right. That gets you a beeline from the manufacturers and access to distributor pricing. I buy direct from many manufacturers, but anything with a serial number goes through a local FFL and costs me $18 per transfer.
43 posted on 10/21/2015 1:12:35 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Red Badger

Your picture reminds me of using .38 special wad cutters to punch ring binder holes in notebook paper.


44 posted on 10/21/2015 1:12:52 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: ExGeeEye

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/16/supreme-court-guns-straw-purchasers/6180633/

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-court-guns-20140327-story.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/24/us-usa-court-guns-idUSBREA1N12820140224

You can assert whatever you want. It won’t keep you out of Federal Prison.

Dred Scott was overturned by new Amendments.

Kelo and Roe, while horrible, still have force of law.

You’re all arguing what should be. I’m arguing what is.


45 posted on 10/21/2015 1:13:02 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: Vendome

All that depends on State law where the buyer is a resident.

Some states allow cross state line purchases. Some don’t.

Some use a paper form submitted (physically or electronically) to state authorities for the background check. Some use NICS.

Some have a waiting period, some don’t.


46 posted on 10/21/2015 1:16:40 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: libstripper

Fish don’t stand still like reams of paper!.........................


47 posted on 10/21/2015 1:18:16 PM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: bruoz

I feel very secure knowing it is against federal law. /s


48 posted on 10/21/2015 1:18:22 PM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
The 4473 and bound book normally remain with the FFL. The ATF can do an inspection and collect the archived 4473 forms, but that doesn't happen very often.
49 posted on 10/21/2015 1:20:20 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Red Badger

True, but if the ream of paper is at 50 feet, getting the holes in line and properly spaced can cost a wee bit of ammo.


50 posted on 10/21/2015 1:37:33 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Two words: Laser Sight................


51 posted on 10/21/2015 1:40:26 PM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Resolute Conservative
I've fished with a gun before.....

Long time ago....Gramps and a cousin of mine...were on a bridge above the Arkansas River.

Our .22's did damage on some gars.....

52 posted on 10/21/2015 1:40:53 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Obama practices "religion" in the mirror.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

You too?


53 posted on 10/21/2015 1:42:13 PM PDT by Torcert (Che Guevara is DEAD - Get Over it!)
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To: Don Corleone
Its going to get bloody.

When petty tyrants try to infringe on our basic, God-given right to freedom of speech, we need to wield that right as necessary for its own protection. When petty tyrants try to infringe on our basic, God-given right to keep and bear arms . . .

54 posted on 10/21/2015 2:02:59 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Boogieman
Some states have legislated 100% background checks, to include private transactions. How strictly those laws are followed is open to interpretation.
55 posted on 10/21/2015 2:07:54 PM PDT by kitchen
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

You cited news articles.

Sorry, I meant the relevant Article of the Constitution.


56 posted on 10/21/2015 2:09:58 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down...and to the left.)
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To: ExGeeEye

You don’t know the articles of the Constitution?

III & VI


57 posted on 10/21/2015 2:17:42 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

And which of those permits the SC to limit the exercise of the bill of rights?


58 posted on 10/21/2015 2:22:22 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down...and to the left.)
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To: mrmeyer

They’ve been caught by Congress more than once on stuff like this.


59 posted on 10/21/2015 2:27:37 PM PDT by bruoz
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To: ExGeeEye

I guess you can’t read;


Article III.

Section. 1.

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

Section. 2.

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;—to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;—to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;—to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;—to Controversies between two or more States;— between a State and Citizens of another State,—between Citizens of different States,—between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.


60 posted on 10/21/2015 2:28:58 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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