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The plinker went to war: The IDF's Ruger 10/22 (Palestinian Terrorist Plinker)
Rugertalk.com ^ | September 27, 2015 | Christopher Eger

Posted on 10/19/2015 9:38:32 AM PDT by Perseverando

Ever since their beginnings in 1948, the Israeli Defense Force has had to think outside the box to come up with weapon's systems, therefore it shouldn't surprise you that for the past 20 years the Israelis have used a (much-modified) 10/22 for use in both special operations and in security operations.


(A gently modded 10/22 with IDF forces in 2000)

The background

Going back to 1987, the IDF purchased a quantity of Ruger 10/22s for use by security forces in the Palestinian Intifada, a violent uprising in the West Bank and Gaza Strip that led to a number of deaths on both sides. Hallmarked by rock throwing, molotov cocktails, and slingshots by the Palestinians (backed by the PLO, Fatah, the Popular Front, the Democratic Front and the Palestine Communist Party), no less than 60 Israeli military and police were killed by 1993.

This led the Israelis to go a bit harder from rubber bullets and tear gas-- the traditional less-lethal tools of the age, and use .22LR rifle fire aimed at the legs of armed intifada participants, as a next step. It seems it's hard to keep your motivation to throw rocks with a 40-grain round in your shin.

The guns used by the IDF at the time were standard wooden-stocked 10/22s modified by the Italian firm of Sabatti with a heavy bull barrel encased by an integral suppressor that looks all the world like a 6 D-Cell Maglite. Drilled and tapped for a full-sized Weaver base, the gun was given a 4x optic of various manufacture and a Harris-style adjustable bipod forward.


(Use of the 10/22 always seems to be in conjunction with other soldiers armed with M16, Tavor or Galil rifles)

It's not known just how many of these guns the Israelis picked up, but they have been widely seen in the West Bank and Gaza for the past two decades.

Their use, however, was controversial an in 2001 they were ordered restricted from use as a "less lethal" weapon.


(AP Photo)

"The mistake was that the Ruger came to be seen as a means of dispersing demonstrations, in contrast to its original purpose as a weapon in every respect," said a senior IDF officer at the time. "The ballistics of the bullet are different from those of regular bullets, and as a result, it is liable to cause excessive damage when used indiscriminately."

Then in 2008, the guns were brought back online and have been used extensively since then with a different set of rules of engagement that restrict the use of them in circumstances where lethal force is authorized.


An Israeli border guard aims his 10/22 during clashes with Palestinian protesters following an anti-Israeli protest after the weekly Friday prayers on September 18, 2015 in the Israeli-controlled area called H2, in the West Bank town of Hebron. Note the BX-25, well-worn stock and receiver, and improvised cheek pad. Image by Hazem Bader/AFP


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1022; 22lr; banglist; idf; plinker; ruger
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To: Psalm 144
This won’t appease anyone and will only make for experienced insurrectionists.

Wait a minute...Don't they consider US the insurrectionists?

41 posted on 10/19/2015 12:47:26 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Perseverando

A good choice. The expensive part of the weapon is the ammo.

Suppressed, the loudest noise would be the action clacking a new round into the chamber.

Wouldn’t it be wise for the IDF to aim for more important parts of young jihadis? One would think of the effect on morale for young Achmed’s friends to be seeing him suddenly unable to sire more terrorists.


42 posted on 10/19/2015 12:49:09 PM PDT by lurk
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To: JimRed

In Israel?


43 posted on 10/19/2015 12:51:52 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (ObamaCons: the deformed and venomous issue of intimacies between Obama and NeoCons.)
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To: NorthMountain

Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, to hear the lamentations of their women.


44 posted on 10/19/2015 1:11:56 PM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: anton

Dedicated barrels are avaiable for the Aguilla Sub-Sonic Sniper round. 60 grains?


45 posted on 10/19/2015 1:16:27 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Perseverando

I believe Rex Applegate prescribed a .22LR to the center of mass of the biggest loudmouth in a riot for crowd control.


46 posted on 10/19/2015 1:20:56 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Psalm 144
In Israel?

Oops, I got two Ruger threads mixed up...

Ruger Selling “State Compliant” Rifles

47 posted on 10/19/2015 1:44:21 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Perseverando
Nice to see the IDF following Jeff Cooper's advice.

The 22-caliber rimfire rifle. This weapon, properly sighted and equipped with a noise suppressor, may be used with surgical delicacy to neutralize mob leaders with risk to other members of the group, without noise and scant danger of death to the subject.

"To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth", Jeff Cooper, (1988)

48 posted on 10/19/2015 3:23:29 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
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To: PanzerKardinal

edit - “without risk to other members...”


49 posted on 10/19/2015 3:25:05 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
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To: Perseverando

Col. Cooper had one of his short articles on using a suppressed .22 Magnum to disperse violent crowds just like what is being done now. That was at least 20-25 years ago. Someone was paying attention.


50 posted on 10/19/2015 3:27:52 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Disambiguator

It’s the Take Down model. I want one!


51 posted on 10/19/2015 3:28:03 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: jim_trent

Col. Cooper certainly had his opinions... and was entitled to every last one of them.


52 posted on 10/19/2015 3:30:37 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: WayneS

For a lot less money one could keep a .22 bolt gun with a long-enough barrel loaded with standard velocity ammo. I think it would hurt about the same. Not real sexy but functional.


53 posted on 10/19/2015 3:38:03 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Perseverando

IMHO? I thought it was proven science.


54 posted on 10/19/2015 3:42:34 PM PDT by Lee Enfield (I identify as rich, cut me a check.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

Those weren’t goldfish.
Those were gold plated piranha.


55 posted on 10/19/2015 5:15:55 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: TexasTransplant

http://www.tacticalsol.com/x-ring-series/x-ring-barrel


56 posted on 10/19/2015 8:28:52 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Perseverando

Got 22’s?


57 posted on 10/20/2015 8:21:01 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Perseverando
Interesting post about this
58 posted on 10/20/2015 8:34:58 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Big Red Badger

Two Years LATER...


59 posted on 12/08/2017 6:59:31 PM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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