Posted on 10/12/2015 5:24:45 AM PDT by rellimpank
History, common sense and reliable data should be the three-legged stool on which legislation concerning gun ownership might be based. Instead, the debate is shaped by once-imagined and now real fear (tyranny), specious reasoning (sophistry), rigid belief systems (ideology) and politics corrupted by money (bribery).
It is a problem unique to America, impervious to change, despite recurring episodes of mass murder and deaths due to guns killing more children or adults in accidents, suicide, murder and domestic violence since 1968 than the total of lives lost in all of America's wars.
The Second Amendment of the Constitution, included in our Bill of Rights (1791) was enacted in the wake of the War of Independence from Britain fought against a mentally deranged monarch and a Parliament that extorted taxes without representation. In the shadow of such tyranny and the absence of a standing army, the amendment granted citizens the right to bear arms as part of a "well-regulated militia", should that become necessary. The sound logic underlying that edict eroded when the United States developed the largest and best equipped standing army on the globe, supported by a voluntary, well-trained and occasionally mobilized reserve.
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no surprise.
It’s a Gannet paper
Agreed! “From my cold, dead hands...”
Someone might be able to repeal the Second Amendment, however our Constitution and Bill of Rights are built upon the concept of inherent and inalienable rights. Instead of rights granted to the people, our Constitution limits the government, not the people. The people retail the right to keep and bear arms regardless of what the government says. Period.
Consequently, this writer lacks a fundamental understanding of what makes American different from every other nation.
Good point.
According to Hobbes,
Not All Rights Are Alienable
Whensoever a man Transferreth his Right, or Renounceth it; it is either in consideration of some Right reciprocally transferred to himselfe; or for some other good he hopeth for thereby. For it is a voluntary act: and of the voluntary acts of every man, the object is some Good To Himselfe. And therefore there be some Rights, which no man can be understood by any words, or other signes, to have abandoned, or transferred. As first a man cannot lay down the right of resisting them, that assault him by force, to take away his life; because he cannot be understood to ayme thereby, at any Good to himselfe. The same may be sayd of Wounds, and Chayns, and Imprisonment; both because there is no benefit consequent to such patience; as there is to the patience of suffering another to be wounded, or imprisoned: as also because a man cannot tell, when he seeth men proceed against him by violence, whether they intend his death or not. And lastly the motive, and end for which this renouncing, and transferring or Right is introduced, is nothing else but the security of a mans person, in his life, and in the means of so preserving life, as not to be weary of it. And therefore if a man by words, or other signes, seem to despoyle himselfe of the End, for which those signes were intended; he is not to be understood as if he meant it, or that it was his will; but that he was ignorant of how such words and actions were to be interpreted.
This is why many of the founding fathers opposed the bill of rights because they said it would lead some to think that rights were granted by the constitution rather than by God. Their wisdom amazes me. The other thing that amazes me is that some people actualy don’t believe in the right to self defense. Taking away the right to keep and bear arms is taking away the right to self defense.
The working of the Constitution will make the Left care. This isn’t the Third Reich and they’re not the Gestapo.
Even Obama publicly complains about Constitutional limits on his pen & his phone.
Talk of the Supreme Court invalidating the Constitution with an opinion or two only moves the battle for gun rights to the next level.
The Left will clench their teeth & introduce amendments they know are doomed to fail. They will then spit & squeal with rage. Can’t you sense the writer’s impotence and frustration? He’s busy stamping his little feet & spilling his cocoa.
Hang in there, FRiend. They don’t own us yet.
;^)
Nowhere does it state that citizens cannot have arms if not in the militia. It basically says a militia is needed and without arms, citizens cannot form a militia. But they have to have arms firstly as is their natural right.
Wait for the republicans to do a Corker switch: making it where Obama can cancel 2A and congress needs 3/4 to override.
Dimwit here needs to go back and read Madison's Federalist #46, in which he explicitly says that the 2nd Amendment was written to ensure that We the People can defend ourselves against a potential future tyrannical National government.
My response is “you’re welcome to try to get an amendment ratified to that effect - go for it”.
Of course, that’s NOT how the left proceeds with things.
They just force their beliefs on others.
Liberalism in a nutshell -
someone poops their pants and we all gotta wear diapers.
Hey Barry. You don’t revoke constitutional amendments, you repeal them.
Put down your pen and get to work. Good luck.
But there’s bad news Barry. In order to figure out how to do this you must actually find a Constitution and read it.
Revoke the right to vote of anyone taking handouts from the government.
Meanwhile, someone brings up the fact that the FBI's own crime stats show that black men commit slightly more than half of all homicides. "That's raaacist!!"
Go ahead. Revoke it if you think you can.
Then what?
Think hard and carefully here. Then ... what?
Then what?
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Funny the ‘same people’ that tell us there is no way to round up and deport 10-20 million illegals because of logistics, manpower, time etc etc etc
ARE
telling us that they can easily confiscate 200million (I am probably really lowballing here) weapons plus ammo.
The logic (or lack of) of the Libs is maddening...
I may (or may not) agree with them that the 2nd doesn’t SPECIFICALLY say I can have a weapon BUT I do know that none of them say TOM can be DICK ‘N HARRY, Joe Blow can burn the flag, we have to pay for abortions at will etc etc etc not even in the slightest stretch, more so when ‘they’ compare it to the wording of the 2nd.
The BIGGEST reform we can have in this country is to not allow any candidate to receive funds from anyone he/she doesn’t directly represent.
I can have a business in town but live in the county and maybe I employ most of the townspeople but I can’t vote in the town elections.
It should be the same for the moneys...
Just who does the author think all those guys wearing red coats were? How ignorant can gun-grabbers get?
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