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Do you WIN or LOSE under Trump's tax plan? (Vanity)
Trump's Tax Plan ^ | 9-28-15 | Rkba Democrat

Posted on 09/28/2015 3:51:07 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat

I've been reading the articles and analysis on Donald Trump's tax plan. I've read several articles, and everyone has an opinion as to whether it helps the poor, hurts the poor, if it taxes people enough, whether it's conservative enough....blah, blah, blah.

I couldn't care less what the theoretical impact is on some hypothetical person that exists in someone's imagination. What I care about are MY taxes. I have yet to see any posts or articles where someone takes out their tax return and figures it out. So I did that. I took out a piece of scrap paper and figured it out. It took all of 5 minutes, including the time to find the calculator.

The result: using conservative assumptions my Federal income taxes will go down by 42%.

I LIKE Donald Trump's tax plan! I like it a lot!


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To: zerosix

This doesn’t eliminate SS, Medicare or state and local taxes. It also doesn’t eliminate sales taxes, or school taxes either. Everyone pays federal taxes -just look at your phone bill or every time you put gasoline in your vechicle(s). There are many other bills that are paid which send money to the feds too. So, everyone who is a consumer pays taxes of some kind. People focus way too much on the federal income tax while neglecting all these others that come out of our pockets.


101 posted on 09/28/2015 5:45:18 PM PDT by Catsrus ( I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: CA Conservative

AGI is income before most deductions. Its real easy to project: take it off your tax form. For most people it doesn’t change significantly, and unless you’re self employed or have heavy investment income the nuances of what is and what isn’t included aren’t going to matter.


102 posted on 09/28/2015 5:46:11 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is like choosing whether you'd prefer the crips or MS-13 to take over your neighborhood.)
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To: central_va

Its 20 percent of taxable income over 100 k if youre married.

Lets say your taxable income is 150 K. You pay zero on the first fifty thousand. You pay 10 percent on the next 50K up to 100K and 20% on the next 50 up to 150K. Or 15K total taxes.


103 posted on 09/28/2015 5:50:56 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is like choosing whether you'd prefer the crips or MS-13 to take over your neighborhood.)
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To: central_va

Good question. Everything Ive seen indicates the rates are afer dedux or on taxable income.


104 posted on 09/28/2015 5:55:17 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is like choosing whether you'd prefer the crips or MS-13 to take over your neighborhood.)
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To: Finny

I also worked as a waitress for many years made a ton of money!!!! VERY RELUCTANTLY went into management, the most income I EVER made in my life for hours worked was waitressing and LOVED every minute of it!!!!


105 posted on 09/28/2015 6:00:36 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Kit cat
Oh gosh ... I remember the one waitress job I had where the wait staff was unionized. All I knew was that I had to pay something like $7 every paycheck in union dues ... for zip, nada, nothing, just another fee for the privilege of working in the dinner house (in the same fancy old motel where my grandmother had once worked as a maid, I was told). THEN the wacky boss literally STOLE a large tip left by my customers on a credit card; she told me they stiffed me, but they told me they left me $$ -- the slip proved it, the boss refused to honor it for me, and I called the union in. They did exactly ZIP. I stayed there, though, because it was a fun job, great co-workers, and because the boss' husband was a great guy (flew some kind of fighter plane in WWII) and his wife wouldn't mess with me after that. Ah ... fond forays down memory lane! My ol' Union days!

I feel for you, kit cat. God bless your path.

106 posted on 09/28/2015 6:01:21 PM PDT by Finny (Be prepared to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is a mathematical fallacy.)
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To: Rusty0604

Huh? The plan explicitly keeps home mortgage interest and charitable dedux. Id take the worst case scenario and assume no other dedux. Other than personal exemptions.

The rate cuts will more than make up for the loss of other dedux for the vast majority.


107 posted on 09/28/2015 6:01:24 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is like choosing whether you'd prefer the crips or MS-13 to take over your neighborhood.)
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To: Kit cat

We are kindred spirits!!! {^) Cyberhug!!!!


108 posted on 09/28/2015 6:02:16 PM PDT by Finny (Be prepared to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is a mathematical fallacy.)
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To: Finny

DITTOS!!!!!


109 posted on 09/28/2015 6:03:42 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: RKBA Democrat
"So do you win or lose under the Trump plan?"

Not really sure. I have regular income from a job and irregular income from a business and investments... It's complicated by inventory, depreciation vs. development costs, overhead and lots of variables in the time, space, cash continuum year to year. It's not third grade math. If it benefits the nation I'm all for it but I strongly believe we need to check government spending and growth or taxation will never keep up.

110 posted on 09/28/2015 6:12:51 PM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: CA Conservative

I looked at this the simplest way I could. I took total income, no deductions, not even for mortgage and used Trump’s rate schedule. Under this system, I would still pay 25% less than I did last year.


111 posted on 09/28/2015 6:20:12 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: RKBA Democrat
"A so-called fair tax isn’t coming now or anytime soon."

Just imagine if we could apply the, "sales tax" to vote buying!

112 posted on 09/28/2015 6:22:12 PM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Finny

I was referring to the hypothetical situation where the boss of a high school student would ask him to work on his prom night. If the high schooler was desperate for cash to provide sustenance for his family, then of course he should do what it takes to keep the job that keeps his family fed. However, since he is in High School in America, this is almost certainly not the case. And, being that the prom is a right of passage that he will likely only get one or two chances to attend, and since the boss knows that himself, I still maintain that the Boss is a jerk for asking the teenager to skip his prom to work at a dead end job.


113 posted on 09/28/2015 6:23:28 PM PDT by jimmyray
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To: RKBA Democrat

Well, yah...
I point is that even those under the $50 K should pay some fed tax...
Stats are that presently 47% (ring a bell?) pay NO fed taxes at all...
Everyone in this country should pay their fair share (sound familiar?) even those on the lower end of the scale....cheers!


114 posted on 09/28/2015 6:32:00 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: RKBA Democrat

I like it, are the other xandidates still counting their super pac monies?

KISS tax plan.

I will work because its simple, and the people will love it, and it will help to make America great again.


115 posted on 09/28/2015 6:32:08 PM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Trump to win! He wins, we win, the nation wins!)
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To: CA Conservative

A lot of us don’t have any deductions. A consistent marginal tax rate is fair. (The one year we did have deductions we got slammed by the AMT so that sucked.)


116 posted on 09/28/2015 6:34:24 PM PDT by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: raybbr

AND they pay no attention, don’t care, watch Wendy Williams, etc. because they have no share in the game...they are on the sidelines while the rest of us are moving the ball...


117 posted on 09/28/2015 6:36:59 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: outofsalt

The plan isn’t going to be detailed enough to get into those sorts of nuances: its a white paper, not a rewrite of the infernal revenue code.

I’d suggest taking your AGI as it is shown on your last tax return. Assume no change. Assume no personal dedux except mortgage interest and charity. Or jusr assume the standard deduction. Assume exemptions stay the same. Then run the math. Apply the rates per the plan. That should give you a fair estimate.

In my case its a 42% reduction. If I only got half that, I’d be delighted.


118 posted on 09/28/2015 6:39:40 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is like choosing whether you'd prefer the crips or MS-13 to take over your neighborhood.)
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To: central_va

LOVE your plan!
You got this vet’s vote!


119 posted on 09/28/2015 6:41:43 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: raybbr

The problem is that there are so many people who *think* that they’re not paying taxes.

The embedded taxes in gas, utilities, phone bills, internet, purchases, the burden on the companies we frequent, and on and on - is huge.

But the 47% who get a big check at the end of the year are happy and don’t realize that they’re losing more than 25% of their income just by living and paying for these embedded things.

That’s why I did like Herman Cain’s 999 plan. No deductions. Everyone pays. Once the cumulative effect was felt, we’d all be paying less.

The Fair Tax (Trump’s plan) helps a lot, but it still leaves the monolith of the stupid IRS in place and leaves the system open for monkey games down the road.

Better than nothing. But I’m afraid that we’re going to end up in New Zealand’s situation. They get it all under control, actually manage to get a surplus, then the population gets greedy again and twenty years later your right back at square one.

I’m not complaining (really!).

Honestly, I think that this is the only way that we’re going to do better. Congress will never go for a total scrapping of our current system. (Which is why Rand Paul doesn’t have a shot - even though he’s right in this respect)


120 posted on 09/28/2015 6:42:22 PM PDT by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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