Posted on 09/26/2015 8:01:14 AM PDT by lqcincinnatus
1] The Roman Pontiff claims for himself [in the first place] that by divine right he is [supreme] above all bishops and pastors [in all Christendom].
2] Secondly, he adds also that by divine right he has both swords, i.e., the authority also of bestowing kingdoms [enthroning and deposing kings, regulating secular dominions etc.].
3] And thirdly, he says that to believe this is necessary for salvation. And for these reasons the Roman bishop calls himself [and boasts that he is] the vicar of Christ on earth.
4] These three articles we hold to be false, godless, tyrannical, and [quite] pernicious to the Church.
5] Now, in order that our proof [reason and opinion] may be [better] understood, we shall first define what they call being above all [what it means that he boasts of being supreme] by divine right. For they mean that he is universal [that the Pope is the general bishop over the entire Christian Church], or, as they say, ecumenical bishop, i.e., from whom all bishops and pastors throughout the entire world ought to seek ordination and [confirmation, who [alone] is to have the right of electing, ordaining, confirming, deposing all bishops [and pastors].
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OOOhh!
How can one go against THAT logic!
Still posting your quite visible bias after being called on it SO many times; eh?
15 But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother.
16 And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand.
17 And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican.
The correct term here is being 'poorly catechized'.
Whatever the local congregation of genuine believers happens to be. I thought you had a hard question here.
A few hours on the rack and then a nice hot bath in boiling oil will usually cure even the most stubborn cases.
Golly!
MORMON facts do really upset you!
I’d try to ignore; as much as possible; something that causes me so much rancor and ill will.
Complicating the question is the frequent discrepancy between what a catechism officially says and how it plays out in practice with little or no attempt to correct the latter. Hey it’s Our One True Church what’s not to like? Well sometimes a valid church still has a lot not to like as the opening chapters of Revelation point out for example.
Tell me about it!
You should HEAR some of the stuff that folks have called me; trying to rattle my cage a bit.
Fortunately, people like the Pope and the USCCB don’t speak for The Church, and are just misunderstood/mistranslated, as well as being poorly Catechized!
How DARE you point out that those were CATHOLIC churches!
I’ve asked this Mormon FRUITCAKE to stop stalking me THREE times today.
Thanks for clearing up the confusion.
Or is it anti-Mormon “fruitcake”? This is not clear.
Well technically what could you call them. Orthocath or something like that? This was well, well before the Catholic/Orthodox split.
Quit pestering people.
Oh, how dastardly! But no, not really. At the second Diet of Speyer certain attendees drafted, signed and presented the Protestati, and those who subscribed to the document naturally became known as "Protestantem," which is the present participle of "Protestati."
It could have been worse. Imagine what you people would be called if they'd given the document a silly title, like "The Complaint," or "The Testament to Hurt Feelings." Count your lucky stars.
I don’t go for Mormon. The story starts out sounding well, but I think Smith got suckered. He was asking questions based on the wrong premise. Besides the theology is weird and so are the stories of serious Mormons. Whatever this is, the official story ain’t the saving love of God in Christ on the Cross. Even a lot of Catholics get that better.
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