Yesterday, I posted the following musing:
To: DoughtyOne
Iran maybe worrying. What if Syria ditches Iran in favor of Russia? Detente with Israel? Why should Syria fight now for the Sunni Palestinians who sided with the jihadists? The Palestinians the Syrian Ba’athists supported were the secular socialist kins like themselves.
14 posted on 9/22/2015, 4:49:04 PM by Trumpinator
If Startfor is looking to hire me I am in the books....
Ping!
Pretty sad that Russia has to go fix America’s mess.
Iran isn’t surprised or baffled. The al Quds commander, Gen. Soleimani, met with the Russians a month ago, remember? This was a coordinated move.
The Quods Forces and IRCG gave Russia and China the go ahead for this operation in Syria.
September 11, 2015
Jennifer Griffin, Lucas Tomlinson
FoxNews.com
As the Pentagon warily eyes a Russian military build-up in Syria, Western intelligence sources tell Fox News that the escalated Russian presence began just days after a secret Moscow meeting in late July between Iran’s Quds Force commander — their chief exporter of terror — and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Fox News has learned Quds head Qassem Soleimani and Putin discussed such a joint military plan for Syria at that meeting, an encounter first reported by Fox News in early August. ...”
The Quds Force is the international arm of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, involved in exporting terrorism to Iran’s proxies throughout the Middle East including Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen. ...”
Officials who have monitored the build-up say they’ve seen more than 1,000 Russian combatants — some of them from the same plainclothes Special Forces units who were sent to Crimea and Ukraine. Some of these Russian troops are logistical specialists and needed for security at the expanding Russian bases.
by Jacob Kornbluh
Sept 2, 2015
In a phone interview with CNN Tuesday evening, Trump claimed that there’s “something in the Iran deal” that “people don’t understand” saying if someone attacks Iran, “we have to come to their defense.”
“Does that include Israel?” Trump asked. “And most people say yes, they don’t have an exclusion for Israel. So if Israel attacks Iran, according to that deal, I believe, the way it reads, unless they have a codicil or they have something to it, that we have to fight with Iran against Israel.” ..."
Trump was most probably referring to language highlighted by the opponents of the deal. On page 142, the deal includes a clause that states, “Co-operation through training and workshops to strengthen Iran’s ability to protect against, and respond to nuclear security threats, including sabotage, as well as to enable effective and sustainable nuclear security and physical protection systems.”
Washington-based Center for Security Policy asserted that Annex III appears “to commit the United States and other world powers to the defense of Iran’s nuclear program.”
Which rational actors in the world want to babysit the insane murderous tribal rivalries in the Middle East? If they did, they would not be rational.I realize Russia has vital interests in maintaining Assad in Syria and their support of Shite Iran but I think they would be manifesting a bit of that insanity if they think they are going to overextend their grasp to the nuttier Sunnis who are aligned against Assad and Iran. Welcome to the Mad Hatters Tea Party, Vladmir.
You about to be schooled in the ways of the insane asylum the US has been minding for the last 6 decades.
It’s not a surprise , Iran knew their plans . There have been recent meetings
The weakness, incompetence and criminality of the Obama Administration have put the United States in her greatest threat of nuclear war ever.
The Russians docked a submarine loaded with nuclear missiles in Syria.
The message is clear.
“Attack anything in Syria with missiles or jets, and one of those missiles might ‘accidentally’ get launched by the concussion of your weapons.”
We are in serious, serious danger.
I never worried about a nuclear strike from the old Soviet Union. Too much at stake back then.
Now? High unemployment. Low oil prices. A weak President. A President who might have committed criminal acts.
Watch out.
Um, both Iran and Syria are client states of Russia so why would Iran be worried????
ETL alerted me to this thread. I did some math on the scale of the forces Putin has moved into Syria:
There are 12 to 14 vehicles (tanks) per company unit. 3 companies per battalion. 3 battalions per brigade. 3 brigades per division.
That works out to about 400 tanks per DIVISION. Putin’s moved TWO armored divisions into Syria. He’s also moved 100,000 infantry. If you round up, not down, that is 20,000 men per infantry division, which makes FIVE INFANTRY DIVISIONS. Typically, there’s about 10,000 men per division, so 20,000 would be a very large division.
OK, so that is 2 armored, 5 infantry divisions. In WWII terms, that is two Armored Corps. A Corps is made up of two or more divisions of military assets. These corps consist of at least three divisions a piece, or in this specifica case six divisions a piece if the Russians assign only 10,000 infantry per corps. The only unit bigger than a Corps is an Army. Two Corps per Army.
Putin has moved in an entire Army unit into Syria. An Army unit is commanded by a four-star general. For example, Patton commanded the 3rd Army in Europe, and the 7th Army in Africa.
An Army is used to take over multiple countries - five, six, seven at a time. It is used to establish regional control. It is not used to apprehend and destroy a band of sick, well funded religious fanatics. The Kurds are doing this with carbines and squads of female fighters. If they had some equipment, ISIS would be done.
Even the regular Nigerian army is having no trouble dealing with Boko Haram when they put their back into it.
Now lets talk about the bombers, all 170 of them.
20 planes per squadron, three squadrons per wing, three wings per group. 180 planes per group.
Putin’s got an entire bomber group in Syria. Bombers generally don’t go anywhere without fighters, but there is no news report on that. We all know what bombers do. If you have air superiority, whatever you don’t have in tanks, you make up for with bombing assets. Coordinate your attack, move your tanks through, and then bring up your infantry to hold the ground you just took.
All told, Putin has moved two Army Corps and one Bomber Group into Syria.
The US has a Tank Division in Saudi Arabia. One division.
From the overhead cam in the stadium, it looks to me like the Chinese are getting ready to push us out of Asia, and the Russians are getting ready to push us out of the Middle East, and it looks like they are getting ready to coordinate this activity at the same time.
How this is not leading the news, or causing R Senators and Congress people to crap their nickers is beyond me.
Time’s running out. 18 months left before Obola leaves. He’s cut the military, and we’ve already conceded we can’t fight two theaters.
If you were Putin, would you hock the wedding china to consolidate all the oil right now? Is what Putin learned from Afghanistan in the 1980s ‘Go big or stay home?’
Add an EMP attack on the continental US and we go from first to worst inside of a single calendar day, globally. What would remain would be the US Navy, and the strategic missile force, which would be useless since Putin didn’t REALLY go nuclear (he’d have to in order to launch an EMP attack on the US, but then we’d have to prove it first).
Maybe that’s why that General - the one overseeing the task force on dealing with ISIS quit yesterday. He’s probably moving his family to Canada, or Costa Rica.
I haven’t done the research on what we mobilized to invade Iraq, but I would bet it wasn’t a force this large. Moreover, for regional stability, we’d have to move something similar into Saudi Arabia to keep the scales balanced, SA cool, Israel protected, and this stupid freakin deal in place.
Today is the 23rd. Six days after Obola said the Iran deal went into effect on its own.
If this development doesn’t kill that idiotic deal, I don’t know what will. I don’t think we had an entire Army in the ME during Desert Storm. I’m going to check.
haha, Iran surprized? Bull sht. these two have been cooperating for eons.