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MORNING JOE: Trump still soars in new tracking poll
MSNBC ^ | September 22, 2015 | Morning Joe

Posted on 09/22/2015 8:02:44 AM PDT by conservative98

Donald Trump stands at 32 percent favorability right now, according to the latest Morning Consult tracking poll. Hugh Hewitt joins Morning Joe to discuss.

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KEYWORDS: bush; carson; fiorina; poll; trump; trumppoll
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To: Forthill
Magna Carta. Copernican theory. Evolution. Independence. Slavery. Civil rights. Women’s vote. Gay rights.

Conservatives fought tooth and nail

It surprises me what is being called conservative. Unsurprisingly, history is a mixed bag, where conservative vs. "liberal" is concerned—because history is still in process.

To take one example, totalitarianism is not conservative, because treating men like ants instead of other Christs is not a tradition sanctioned by God, the Church, or the Bible.

The noblemen forced King John to sign the Magna Carta to reverse the fact that he had taken away their traditional rights to govern their own people. The 2,000-year-old Catholic church calls the nobles' position "subsidiarity," which is the arrangement whereby authority is exercised at the lowest level practical. On the opposite side, the bomb-throwing, God-hating Left believes passionately in tyranny, as long as they're the tyrants in charge. See the Liberté, Egalité, and Fraternité of the French Revolution and the Russian revolution for how that wonderful new idea worked out. P.S. Tyranny is an old idea.

Copernican theory? Conceived and published by a Catholic canon at the urging of two close friends—a bishop and a cardinal. Luther and the other Reformation types I've read all hated Copernicanism, as it was called, because they saw it as contradicting the language of the Bible. But the Pope at the time of Copernicus, Clement VII, was enthralled by a lecture he heard on Copernicus's heliocentric theory, and had his cardinals write to Copernicus to ask for copies of all his books. One hundred years later, Galileo got into trouble, not because he favored Copernicanism, but because he described some of his own theories (some of which were wrong) as received truth, and for good measure, made fun of his friend and protector, Pope Urban VIII, in print.

Evolution? How about genetics? Devised by a German Augustinian monk named Gregor Mendel using the traditional scientific method—which, by the way, is based on works by Aristotle and St. Thomas Aquinas, a Doctor of the Catholic Church, on logic and philosophy. Evolution is not a science, but a hypothesis, and it's been creaking badly of late.

Independence? The colonists were asserting their traditional rights as Englishmen, which Parliament had been denying them for decades. Etc.

The Soviet revolution was 70 years old when Reagan, Mrs. Thatcher, and John Paul II knocked it on its butt. The Soviet regime was certainly entrenched, with its own, very conservative control of every word publicly uttered. Was Soviet tyranny liberal or conservative? The Communist Party USA was a fully funded subsidiary of the Soviet Communist Party. The CPUSA, officiated by Americans, never deviated from the Soviet Party line between 1920 and 1990. Was the CPUSA conservative or liberal?

The comment you mention is arbitrarily assigning the label of liberal or conservative after the fact, after picking sides for itself and its political enemies of today. The reality is that when something has been in place for a while, it becomes conservative to uphold it. Problems arise when rulers and their rules "conserve" and protect themselves to the point where they stop serving the people under them. Like, say, Democrats and the GOPe today.

So obviously, the Tea Party, because it opposes the Dems and the GOPe, is going to win in the end, because it's liberal! QED.

121 posted on 09/22/2015 9:53:21 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: cuban leaf

Well, George H.W. Bush was a nice young man, so I’m sure this “Jeb” is as well!


122 posted on 09/22/2015 9:57:33 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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To: dowcaet; Resettozero
Keep telling yourself that all those potential Trump voters are in reality Cruz supporters. Did it ever occur to you that Trump’s support is legit and not made up of Cruz supporters who are inflating his poll numbers?

Maybe Cruz's supporters are really Trump supporters who haven't made the jump yet?

123 posted on 09/22/2015 9:59:23 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Maybe Cruz's supporters are really Trump supporters who haven't made the jump yet?

Conjecture. It's what makes Free Republic great!
124 posted on 09/22/2015 10:09:18 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: freedumb2003

I don’t see Cruz dropping out any time soon. But there is this:

I’m disappointed from what I heard Ted Cruz say last night on Colbert - he said he wouldn’t bash or answer back to anyone trashing his R opponents. All well and good, but then he said the same about Democrats. That lost me right there - another George W. Bush who refused to stand up for himself and hit back at the Dems.


125 posted on 09/22/2015 10:10:42 AM PDT by Catsrus (Trump/Cruz - the only 2 worth voting for. I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: cuban leaf

Um, Walker dropped out.


126 posted on 09/22/2015 10:10:49 AM PDT by petercooper (And I was born in the back seat of a Greyhound bus... Rollin' down Highway 41.)
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To: cuban leaf

“I’ll not vote for him (Trump). Walker and Cruz are the only ones that will get my vote, and only one is still running.”

That’s mature. So hand the presidency to another socialist-democrat. That’ll show ‘em!

Walker and Cruz both are good people but neither could win against any Dem who will run.


127 posted on 09/22/2015 10:15:39 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Beware the tyranny of the easily offended. (Stossel))
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To: MayflowerMadam

FYI ...Walkers not running...he quit the race.


128 posted on 09/22/2015 10:17:07 AM PDT by caww
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To: Catsrus

>>I don’t see Cruz dropping out any time soon.<<

Not soon, but next.

>>I’m disappointed from what I heard Ted Cruz say last night on Colbert - he said he wouldn’t bash or answer back to anyone trashing his R opponents. <<

That takes him off his own message as a sh!t kicker. It makes him look soft (as has his performance in the “debates”).


129 posted on 09/22/2015 10:30:33 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The 17th Amendment was the beginning of the end. The end was the 19th ;) Thank God for the 21st!)
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To: freedumb2003

Speaking of his message - I can give his stump speech as well as he can - he has every word memorized and so do I. He needs to change it up some - he lists the 5 things he will do on day one - and then talks about putting the IRS agents on the border. Yeah, that’s supposed to be humor, but I want to hear something different from him.


130 posted on 09/22/2015 10:32:54 AM PDT by Catsrus (Trump/Cruz - the only 2 worth voting for. I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: caww; MayflowerMadam
FYI ...Walkers not running...he quit the race.

Hush, she's on a roll.


131 posted on 09/22/2015 10:35:21 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The 17th Amendment was the beginning of the end. The end was the 19th ;) Thank God for the 21st!)
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To: Catsrus

>>and then talks about putting the IRS agents on the border. <<

He should talk about putting IRS agents on the Syrian border! THAT is a campaign winner!


132 posted on 09/22/2015 10:36:59 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The 17th Amendment was the beginning of the end. The end was the 19th ;) Thank God for the 21st!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Actually, it will “show ‘em”, if that’s what it takes.in a democracy, you not only get the government you want, but the government you deserve. The smart Jews didn’t fight Hitler.
The smart ones left.

Look around you at the current electorate and then rent Idiocracy. Seriously.


133 posted on 09/22/2015 10:37:34 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: caww

Yes; I know. I saw his Trump-bashing speech in real time. My post was responding to the original poster who had mentioned Walker.


134 posted on 09/22/2015 10:37:59 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Beware the tyranny of the easily offended. (Stossel))
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To: freedumb2003

Yes; I know. I saw his Trump-bashing speech in real time. My post was responding to the original poster who had mentioned Walker.


135 posted on 09/22/2015 10:39:01 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Beware the tyranny of the easily offended. (Stossel))
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To: Bobalu

Just look at that face! I Mean, come on, do we want that face as our next president? NO


136 posted on 09/22/2015 11:00:09 AM PDT by TexasCruzin ( He always hits back.)
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To: yoe

Trump plays ‘the terminator’ to perfection. The Trumpinator.


137 posted on 09/22/2015 11:02:35 AM PDT by TexasCruzin ( He always hits back.)
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To: LS

“These people are staring at being out of work.”

Yeah, next the GOPe will try to tell us all that the economy will tank again if all of them are put out to pasture. Any real government reform will only take place with the GOPe gone.


138 posted on 09/22/2015 11:03:44 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: freedumb2003

Cruz is having too much fun to drop out. He’ll stay in for the long haul. He’s doing fine with hard money and super pacs.


139 posted on 09/22/2015 11:07:02 AM PDT by TexasCruzin ( He always hits back.)
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To: conservative98
Telemundo and the racist celebrities like Santana and Gloria Estefan have helped his numbers greatly!
140 posted on 09/22/2015 11:07:26 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are those committed by illegal aliens)
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