Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam

Gateway Pundit ^ | May 15, 2012 | Jim Hoft

[Arthur McGowan]

In a shocking interview yesterday on the Sean Hannity Radio Show, author Ed Klein said Barack Obama’s former pastor helped Obama accept Christianity without having to renounce Islam.

[DungeonMaster]

I sometimes wondered if O’Marxist’s Muslim flavor was Nation of Islam. Now I’m more convinced of it.

After I pung you to this post I realized how old it was. I had zero memory of this little tidbit but it sure seems pertinent now.

[DungeonMaster]

I’m losing my marbles. I swear I saw 2012 on the earlier posts in this thread. I better get a ride home.

[FourtySeven]

Umm, Mr. White (I won’t even use the appellation “Pastor” for him that would imply too much importance to his chosen lot in life) you can’t be a Christian WITHOUT renouncing Islam. Even a Muslim knows that!

Ya big dummy (Fred Samson reference there)

[newgeezer]

Guessing you meant “Wright” (and “Sanford”). {grin}

DungeonMaster can relate, I’m sure. ;)

[Arthur McGowan]

It’s a vast collusion and cover-up.

Most of our political class are pro-abortion. This means that they will murder anyone they can get away with murdering, and tell any lie they need to tell in order to gain power, or put one of their own in power, etc.

The political class in the Soviet Union engaged in a vast conspiracy of lies and silence for over 70 years. Our political class is now just as evil.

[FourtySeven]

LOL man I screwed that post up more than Obama did his oath of office! (Well maybe not THAT much).

Thanks!

[Yaelle]

A) everyone around here knew in 2007 that the pastor and a lot of the flock were Muslim or ex Muslim.

B) Obama was born Muslim and can’t ever leave it. Just like if you are born Jewish and can’t ever leave it. Whether Obama took Christianity to heart, even for one day or three years, he remains Muslim by birth.

C) Far worse is the Down Low Club that Rev. Wright started. That lead to innocent deaths.

[samtheman]

It’s a vast collusion and cover-up.

Most of our political class are pro-abortion. This means that they will murder anyone they can get away with murdering, and tell any lie they need to tell in order to gain power, or put one of their own in power, etc.

The political class in the Soviet Union engaged in a vast conspiracy of lies and silence for over 70 years. Our political class is now just as evil.

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Sad but true.

[Jedidah]

Do you understand that there is a world of difference between the “United Church of Christ,” which is quite liberal, and the much more fundamentalist and evangelical Churches of Christ?

Very little in common doctrinally, just a somewhat similar name.

[Sioux-san]

You got that all right - FM Davis/Chicago connections helped - probably Ayers’s daddy (Chicago big wig) knew Stanley Ann’s daddy. This really is a tangled web that continues to be ignored by most everyone.

[Elsie]

[WashingtonSource]

Cash Cow!

[Elsie]

Moo!

[bert]

beware muslim in Christian vestments

[Elsie]

beware muslim in Christian vestments

We ain't no steenkin' Muslims!

“I Will Be a Second Mohammed”

In the heat of the Missouri “Mormon War” of 1838, Joseph Smith made the following claim, “I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword.’ So shall it eventually be with us—‘Joseph Smith or the Sword!’ ”[1]

It is most interesting that a self-proclaimed Christian prophet would liken himself to Mohammed, the founder of Islam. His own comparison invites us to take a closer look as well. And when we do, we find some striking—and troubling—parallels. Consider the following.

• Mohammed and Joseph Smith both had humble beginnings. Neither had formal religious connections or upbringing, and both were relatively uneducated. Both founded new religions by creating their own scriptures. In fact, followers of both prophets claim these scriptures are miracles since their authors were the most simple and uneducated of men.[2]

• Both prophets claim of having angel visitations, and of receiving divine revelation to restore pure religion to the earth again. Mohammed was told that both Jews and Christians had long since corrupted their scriptures and religion. In like manner, Joseph Smith was told that all of Christianity had become corrupt, and that consequently the Bible itself was no longer reliable. In both cases, this corruption required a complete restoration of both scripture and religion. Nothing which preceded either prophet could be relied upon any longer. Both prophets claim they were used of God to restore eternal truths which once existed on earth, but had been lost due to human corruption.

• Both prophets created new scripture which borrowed heavily from the Bible, but with a substantially new “spin.” In his Koran, Mohammed appropriates a number of Biblical themes and characters—but he changes the complete sense of many passages, claiming to “correct” the Bible. In so doing he changes many doctrines, introducing his own in their place. In like manner, Joseph Smith created the Book of Mormon, much of which is plagiarized directly from the King James Bible. Interestingly, the Book of Mormon claims that this same Bible has been substantially corrupted and is therefore unreliable. In addition, Joseph Smith went so far as to actually create his own version of the Bible itself, the “Inspired Version,” in which he both adds and deletes significant portions of text, claiming he is “correcting” it. In so doing he also changes many doctrines, introducing his own in their place.

• As a part of their new scriptural “spin,” both prophets saw themselves as prophesied in scripture, and both saw themselves as a continuation of a long line of Biblical prophets. Mohammed saw himself as a continuation of the ministry of Moses and Jesus. Joseph Smith saw himself as a successor to Enoch, Melchizedek, Joseph and Moses. Joseph Smith actually wrote himself into his own version of the Bible—by name.

• Both prophets held up their own scripture as superior to the Bible. Mohammed claimed that the Koran was a perfect copy of the original which was in heaven. The Koran is therefore held to be absolutely perfect, far superior to the Bible and superceding it. In like manner, Joseph Smith also made the following claim. “I told the Brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding its precepts, than by any other book.”[3]

• Despite their claim that the Bible was corrupt, both prophets admonished their followers to adhere to its teachings. An obvious contradiction, this led to selective acceptance of some portions and wholesale rejection of others. As a result, the Bible is accepted by both groups of followers only to the extent that it agrees with their prophet’s own superior revelation.

• Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith taught that true salvation was to be found only in their respective religions. Those who would not accept their message were considered “infidels,” pagans or Gentiles. In so doing, both prophets became the enemy of genuine Christianity, and have led many people away from the Christ of the Bible.

• Both prophets encountered fierce opposition to their new religions and had to flee from town to town because of threats on their lives. Both retaliated to this opposition by forming their own militias. Both ultimately set up their own towns as model societies.

• Both Mohammed and Joseph Smith left unclear instructions about their successors. The majority of Mohammed’s followers, Sunni Muslims, believe they were to elect their new leader, whereas the minority, Shiite Muslims, look to Alī ibn Abī Ṭālib, whom they consider Divinely appointed, as the rightful successor to Muhammad, and the first imam. (Ali was the cousin and son-in-law of the Islamic prophet Muhammad). Similarly, the majority of Joseph Smith's followers, Mormons, believed their next prophet should have been the existing leader of their quorum of twelve apostles, whereas the minority, RLDS, believed Joseph Smith's own son should have been their next prophet. Differences on this issue, and many others, have created substantial tension between these rival groups of each prophet.

• Mohammed taught that Jesus was just another of a long line of human prophets, of which he was the last. He taught that he was superior to Christ and superceded Him. In comparison, Joseph Smith also made the following claim.

“I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him, but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.”[4] In light of these parallels, perhaps Joseph Smith's claim to be a second Mohammed unwittingly became his most genuine prophecy of all.

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[1] Joseph Smith made this statement at the conclusion of a speech in the public square at Far West, Missouri on October 14, 1838. This particular quote is documented in Fawn M. Brodie, No Man Knows My History, second edition, (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1971), p. 230–231. Fawn Brodie’s footnote regarding this speech contains valuable information, and follows. “Except where noted, all the details of this chapter [16] are taken from the History of the [Mormon] Church. This speech, however, was not recorded there, and the report given here is based upon the accounts of seven men. See the affidavits of T.B. Marsh, Orson Hyde, George M. Hinkle, John Corrill, W.W. Phelps, Samson Avard, and Reed Peck in Correspondence, Orders, etc., pp. 57–9, 97–129. The Marsh and Hyde account, which was made on October 24, is particularly important. Part of it was reproduced in History of the [Mormon] Church, Vol. III, p. 167. See also the Peck manuscript, p. 80. Joseph himself barely mentioned the speech in his history; see Vol. III, p. 162.”

[2] John Ankerberg & John Weldon, The Facts on Islam, (Eugene, OR: Harvest House Publishers, 1998), pp.8–9. Eric Johnson, Joseph Smith & Muhammed, (El Cajon, CA: Mormonism Research Ministry, 1998), pp. 6–7.

[3] Documentary History of the [Mormon] Church, vol.4, pp.461.

[4] Documentary History of the [Mormon] Church, vol.6, pp.408–409.

[newgeezer]

B) Obama was born Muslim and can’t ever leave it. Just like if you are born Jewish and can’t ever leave it. Whether Obama took Christianity to heart, even for one day or three years, he remains Muslim by birth.

While "Jewish" may describe a person of the Jewish faith or a person of Jewish descent (ethnicity or race), a Muslim is a person whose faith is Islam. There is no Muslim (or Lutheran or Hindi or Buddhist) race or ethnic group.

[Yaelle]

According to some experts and imams, if the father is Muslim, so are the children. If they choose to practice a different religion they are apostate. But since there is a law that allows Muslims to lie to others to protect Islam, Obama, to Muslims, isn’t even an apostate. He is hiding his Muslim faith in order to do good as an American President for Islam. Which he is doing.

Though I think the shallow, selfish man is not even religious in the Muslim faith, but they still buy it.

[Elsie]

What?

Do you suggest he does NOT bow towards Mecca five times a day?