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The Trouble with Kids Today (it's all about IQ after all)
The Federalist ^ | 9/19/15 | Murray

Posted on 09/19/2015 12:08:13 PM PDT by pabianice

...IQ has a substantial direct correlation with measures of success in life, and it is also correlated with a variety of other characteristics that promote success...

...It’s not just that the IQ gap in working-class and upper-middle-class communities has gotten wider. The life penalties associated with low IQ have risen since 1960. If you focus on the economic changes since 1960, those with low IQ have faced a labor market in which the market value of a strong back has dropped while the value of brains has soared...

...If you focus on the reforms and social programs of the 1960s, the reductions in immediate penalties for destructive behavior (e.g., doing drugs, dropping out of school, grabbing purses, having a baby without marriage) had the most effect on people who were impulsive, attracted to immediate gratification, and unable to foresee long-term consequences—qualities associated with low IQ. The effects of such changes in incentives among the smart were much smaller....


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bookreview; charlesmurray; idiocracy; intelligence; intelligencequotient; iq; robertdputnam
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To: stevio

Europe is literally just handing over their continent to Muslim middle easterners. That’s about as dumb as one can get.


41 posted on 09/19/2015 12:43:00 PM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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To: pabianice

I got conned into a date with a Mensa guy once. Oh crikes I thought I would die of boredom before it was over. He talked constantly about himself. I’m more mature now and I realize he did not possess social skills which may be because he was so smart.

Now I am married to a genius but fortunately he’s a really fun date. He has no interest in MENSA. He thinks its boring. :-)


42 posted on 09/19/2015 12:43:20 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: miss marmelstein

Kids must start somewhere.


43 posted on 09/19/2015 12:43:35 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: miss marmelstein; All
Oh, no. Now the Mensa folks are weighing in. Spare me!
LOL


Click the Pic

44 posted on 09/19/2015 12:43:36 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

There are plenty of smart people who do manual and blue collar labor. A lot of us don’t want to sit behind a desk all day. I think I’d rather live under a bridge.


45 posted on 09/19/2015 12:45:27 PM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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To: pabianice
Do we have an insoluble problem?

There's a solution. Societal devolution. In times of wide civil disorder, I'd say that IQ is of less value. Look at the inbred Middle East, or the more disorganized parts of Africa, or our worst inner city areas. Strength and ruthlessness matter as much or more as abstract intelligence.

46 posted on 09/19/2015 12:47:06 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: pabianice

Only one?
Among many.


47 posted on 09/19/2015 12:47:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: All

"You talk like a fag, and your s__t's all retarded."

(hopefully you've seen the movie...)

48 posted on 09/19/2015 12:50:01 PM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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To: I Hired Craig Livingstone
Lighten up
I posted that as a joke.

BTW. I'm one of the High IQ crowd too
(For all the good that's ever done me)

49 posted on 09/19/2015 12:50:20 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: I Hired Craig Livingstone

“... And there was a time in this country, a long time ago, when reading wasn’t just for fags and neither was writing. People wrote books and movies, movies that had stories so you cared whose ass it was and why it was farting, and I believe that time can come again!”


50 posted on 09/19/2015 12:50:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

I agree, lets drug 3 billion people.


51 posted on 09/19/2015 12:51:32 PM PDT by poinq
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Intelligence is a biological problem and should be treated as one. Research can ultimately provide chemicals to ease the problem of low IQ’s. In addition, medications to increase the time between stimulus and response(impulse control) would be useful in certain demographics.

Ok wait, we could drug 3 billion people, or... we could just serve fine wines to the top IQs. Its chaeper. And if we are just looking for parity and not smarts...


52 posted on 09/19/2015 12:54:40 PM PDT by poinq
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To: dfwgator

53 posted on 09/19/2015 12:55:29 PM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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To: Fiddlstix

I got a 144.

But there are a couple nuisance questions I just guessed at, so don’t know..

The “what number DOESN’T belong in the series” questions are pretty different from a standard IQ test!

BTW, The highest I ever scored was 158, after a good night’s sleep and a hot cup of joe.


54 posted on 09/19/2015 12:57:22 PM PDT by djf ("It's not about being nice, it's about being competent!" - Donald Trump)
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To: djf
Hey! That's good!
55 posted on 09/19/2015 12:58:54 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; pabianice

A lot related to IQ tests within a country that has the same language group relates to verbal comprehension. Even math relates to that. Blacks speak a rudimentary nonstandard English that doesn’t even include some of the concepts that would be required for them to understand or express themselves in an IQ test. They can even barely sort of shapes because they’re not sure how to classify them.

Blacks need to be taught Standard English.


56 posted on 09/19/2015 12:59:17 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

You be dissing me bro!


57 posted on 09/19/2015 1:00:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Is the Pope Catholic?)
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To: pabianice; Old Sarge; Gefn; EnigmaticAnomaly; Califreak; kalee; TWhiteBear; freeangel; ...

Interesting article.

58 posted on 09/19/2015 1:00:30 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: pabianice

“Do we have an insoluble problem?”

Quite likely. If robots take over as hotel maids, ditch diggers, tomato pickers, etc. and those displaced aren’t capable of building robots or retraining for higher skills, even if they are willing to work what are they going to do?


59 posted on 09/19/2015 1:01:21 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: pabianice

That’s why I quit going. They all kept talking about themselves and wouldn’t listen to me talk about myself.

Seriously, though, you can hardly find a more pretentious and boring bunch.


60 posted on 09/19/2015 1:01:39 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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