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If Obama is Muslim, why is he pro-abortion and pro-gay "marriage"? [vanity]
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| Sep 18 2015
Posted on 09/18/2015 5:48:49 PM PDT by WilliamIII
Pardon the vanity, but you don't have to like Obama to see some big holes in the idea that he's Muslim.
Say what you will about Islam, is there any brand of Islam that is pro-feminist, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual-"marriage"?
Those are the positions of secular humanists, and leftist mainline protestantism. I put Obama in one of those two camps.
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To: WilliamIII
You can ask the same question about Obama's alleged Christianity.
If he's a Christian, why is he advocating for homosexual marriage and abortion?
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posted on
09/18/2015 5:56:16 PM PDT
by
usconservative
(When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
To: chris37; WilliamIII
chris37 :" Because hes pro-American destruction."
Becuase he can promote the Socialist agenda if we have a country without morals , morale , borders , cultural identity or soverignty.
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posted on
09/18/2015 5:56:59 PM PDT
by
Tilted Irish Kilt
(The GOPe and Karl Rove got Obama elected twice. .. How'd that work out for ya ?)
To: WilliamIII
Obama is not Muslim (at least in the religious sense). Obama is not Christian
Obama is a postmodern, American leftist metrosexual. This is his religion. It’s basically a vague creed of hedonism, hate for tradition, and statism, encompassing everything from new age to homosexuality to Marxism
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posted on
09/18/2015 5:57:01 PM PDT
by
PGR88
To: WilliamIII
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posted on
09/18/2015 5:57:13 PM PDT
by
FLCowboy,
(Good is the enemy of great)
To: yarddog
Kudos, most succinct explanation I’ve seen.
To: WilliamIII
It is curious. He is a pro-gay and pro-abortion.
However, he has done more to advance the cause of the Muslim Brotherhood, than any westerner in history. The White House has direct connections to it. There is evidence that we have funded ISIS and Al Quaeda.
A little file on him and the Muslim Brotherhood...
http://www.nachumlist.com/brotherhood.htm
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posted on
09/18/2015 5:58:02 PM PDT
by
Nachum
(Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
To: DiogenesLamp
Infidels are regarded as untermenschen. It is okay to lie to, to rape, and to murder them in Islam.
If it is okay to murder them, the Abortion is not a problem. It is only Infidel babies being aborted. Muslims would not have this issue.
As for supporting homosexuals, it also damages the infidel west. Anything which damages the infidel west is permitted.
On a different aspect, Obama’s power base requires him to hold and advance these positions. That they are destructive to the Nation and Christianity is likewise in his best interest.
Well said, but you leave something out. Although public display of homosexuality is forbidden by Islam and punishable by horrible death in many Islamic countries, the fact is young Islamic men routinely practice homosexual rape against the weaker members of their groups, but it’s not considered homosexuality and not ever ever discussed in public.
frontpagemag has had many articles on this subject over the years.
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posted on
09/18/2015 5:58:04 PM PDT
by
samtheman
(2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
To: WilliamIII
He's an anti colonialists .. he takes the side of anything that's not the evil colonialist white man english/american judeo christian.
Other than his aversion for the colonialist and these other things, he has no value system.
So he appears to embrace blacks, muslims, gays - but there is no care for them. His belief system is an amalgamation of not-american, not-christian, not-masculine.
There is no real Obama ... there is only the manifestation of what he hates. He's on the side of anyone else who hates what he hates, or who stands to weaken what he hates.
The enemy of his enemy is his friend, but in order to play that game, he must first divide the masculine, white, Christian, colonialist from anyone who is not those things.
This is why he's so hard to pin down. He's not really anything. And that all makes sense when you look at his birth family - the man has zero identity, other than being in opposition to any strong identity.
What he hates most of all is a righteous identity of any sort, and especially the strength it projects ... essentially, a coward trying tear down anything that is strong. You'll never peg him as anything (other than a destructive as*hole.)
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posted on
09/18/2015 5:58:05 PM PDT
by
tinyowl
(penguin in transition and C. Edmond Wright says I am an idiot and a Trump sycophant)
To: WilliamIII
Liberation theologist. Sympathetic to anything including Islam that denounces western civilization as being guilty of all sins and needing to be made to pay.
To: WilliamIII
Ok, then is he a Christian like he has said he is?
Same argument
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posted on
09/18/2015 5:58:49 PM PDT
by
A_Former_Democrat
(Eliminate "Sanctuary Cities" and "birthright citizenship" and other immigration scams)
To: WilliamIII
Because he wants non-Muslims to kill themselves out so the Muslims can conquer the world.
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posted on
09/18/2015 5:59:17 PM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
To: WilliamIII
If they share Obama’s brand of “Christianity” then they should be concerned about the immortal souls:
FALSANI: What do you believe?
OBAMA: I am a Christian.
So, I have a deep faith. So I draw from the Christian faith.
On the other hand, I was born in Hawaii where obviously there are a lot of Eastern influences.
I lived in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, between the ages of six and 10.
My father was from Kenya, and although he was probably most accurately labeled an agnostic, his father was Muslim.
And Id say, probably, intellectually Ive drawn as much from Judaism as any other faith.
So, Im rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.
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posted on
09/18/2015 5:59:30 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
To: WilliamIII
Get over it!
Obama's a MUSLIM and has ALWAYS BEEN A Muslim !
there's NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
Obama's ring: 'There is no god but Allah'
Satan's minion, the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF, despises Israel, and want's his RADICAL ISLAMISTS to take it.
Obama is NOT Christian.
He's MUSLIM.
Didn't our Heavenly Father, through our Savior
tell us...
" thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother."
How well we deserve this curse (~so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things~) God has given us,
through the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF, the FASCIST Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama II IS a Muslim.
His actions prove it.
To believe Barack Hussein Obama II, when he claims to be a Christian, is to trust Satan.
Muslims are well know for lying about their faith.
MUSLIMS are allowed to LIE and deceive NON MUSLIMS, if it benefits or protects ISLAM. Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."
Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.
Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"
Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"
Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
For a better understanding of the issue, read
HISTORY of Mohammed ( spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc. ).
Read
INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961! The documents provided in that article are very damaging to Obama, and well worth your time.
Now, I ask you,
WOULD A CHRISTIAN DO THESE THINGS LISTED BELOW ? Pay attention to just HOW MUCH the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF and his IRANIAN SPY HATES CHRISTIANS !
This stinking piece of crap that's defiling our Oval Office is importing the Radical Islamists that will kill us.
When will congress get the guts tho IMPEACH, CONVICT and EXECUTE that ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF ? Also, don't forget this: I'll bet the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF and his IRANIAN SPY are intending on EVERY ONE OF THEM to be used for importing a RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORIST !
UNHCR data confirms it: 75% of the so-called refugees arriving in Europe are MEN.
Invasion of Europe news….
We mentioned recently that it appears from some photos that the invaders of Europe are mostly fighting age young men.
The UN High Commissioner for Refugees does not tell us their ages, but does tell us that 75% are men. (Germans hide your daughters!)
Only 51% are Syrians, the rest are from all over the Middle East and Africa.
So, did the men abandon their women and children back home (in an unsafe country)?
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posted on
09/18/2015 5:59:31 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: usconservative
There are thousands of protestant ministers (mainline denominations) who are just as pro-abort and pro-gay-marriage as Obama. If he really considers himself a Christian, then he’s thinking “Christian” in the sense of liberal Methodist or Episcopalian.
To: BenLurkin
If Obama is Muslim Christian, why is he pro-abortion and pro-gay "marriage"?
Touché!
Obammy is just a fagbot, doing what his masters tell him to do.
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posted on
09/18/2015 5:59:53 PM PDT
by
867V309
(Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
To: WilliamIII
It's plain he is not Muslim. He's a leftist. That explains why he has certain attitudes towards Muslims. The left uses them. But when they are no longer useful, they won't like them anymore. They don't want anyone to believe in God. Right now they are successfully using Muslims against Christians and Jews.
By the way, Obama has used drones to kill plenty of Muslims.
To: WilliamIII
Obama is a puppet, saying what the fist up his *** tells him to say. He doesn’t strike me as anything other than a place holder.
To: ZULU
Obama is not a Muslim.Here is an article that claims the gold ring he wears is adorned with Arabic script which reads THERE IS NO GOD EXCEPT ALLAH.
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posted on
09/18/2015 6:00:36 PM PDT
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: WilliamIII
islam and leftists are in bed together right now...the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The enemy for these guys are Christians and Jews. It will be interesting to see who comes out on top if they’re successful....
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posted on
09/18/2015 6:01:08 PM PDT
by
DouglasKC
(I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
To: Mechanicos
He doesn’t want a caliphate here, he wants leftist government. If Christians and Jews were gone tomorrow, the left would be pounding on Muslims immediately.
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