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We just got the clearest sign yet that Russia doesn't really care about fighting ISIS in Syria
Business Insider ^ | 12 Sep 15 | Natasha Bertrand

Posted on 09/12/2015 2:46:19 AM PDT by elhombrelibre

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To: RC one

You said it was the root cause and the invasion empowered radical Islam. How? The failures of Maliki and Obama led to the vacuum, not the invasion that smashed Saddam and had stabilized Iraq until Obama goofed it up with his indifference.


41 posted on 09/12/2015 7:04:09 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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42 posted on 09/12/2015 7:05:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: ETL

He doesn’t know. I do. He’s wrong.


43 posted on 09/12/2015 7:06:28 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
You’re in sync with the Left when you say the invasion of Iraq is the cause of radical Islam.

The invasion of Iraq toppled one of radical Islam's most powerful and dangerous enemies.

44 posted on 09/12/2015 7:08:42 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: wrench

I don’t parrot anyone, including MSM articles from 2014. Nothing you read in the MSM can be trusted. Most of what you “see” in the press is b-roll filler from the enemy. Of course, you know all about that.


45 posted on 09/12/2015 7:09:45 AM PDT by antidisestablishment
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To: elhombrelibre
The failures of Maliki and Obama led to the vacuum

No, invading Iraq led to the vacuum and George Bush signed the status of forces agreement that stipulated that all US combat forces would be out of Iraq by December 31, 2011. That was the agreement.

not the invasion that smashed Saddam and had stabilized Iraq

If Iraq was so stable, leaving shouldn't have been an issue.

46 posted on 09/12/2015 7:17:22 AM PDT by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,)
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To: Boardwalk

because there is no compelling reason to leave.


47 posted on 09/12/2015 7:26:16 AM PDT by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,)
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To: silverleaf

Assad’s airforce is ISIS’s airforce; 12% minority can’t rule over the rest, it will pull Egypt and others in. So you are siding with the QUDS who killed our men.

More RT nonsense.


48 posted on 09/12/2015 7:29:24 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: RC one

We were also scheduled to leave Afghanistan, we are still there.


49 posted on 09/12/2015 7:30:10 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: oblomov

ISIS has more Soviet, Russian and Chinese arms than American.


50 posted on 09/12/2015 7:31:01 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: elhombrelibre

At least, there are not whole American battalions in ISIS but there are indeed whole Russian battalions in ISIS. http://www.rferl.org/archive/under-the-black-flag/latest/17257/17257.html


51 posted on 09/12/2015 7:32:14 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: boycott

I guess that’s why ISIS leaders have been killed, Baghdadi seriously injured.

Assad is ISIS’s airforce.


52 posted on 09/12/2015 7:33:17 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2884/assad-slaughtering-syrian-christians

John Bolton’s Gatestone Institute; Assad slaughtering Syrian Christians.


53 posted on 09/12/2015 7:39:33 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

Very very few attacks. Mostly for show.


54 posted on 09/12/2015 7:44:35 AM PDT by boycott
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To: BeadCounter

Assad has killed more than ISIS; Putin and Iran back him up. Syria started this whole storm and Iran and Syria also aided the terrorists in Iraq when we were in Iraq.


55 posted on 09/12/2015 7:47:58 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

so George Bush had nothing to with anything and Iraq was a fantastic idea. Got it. we’re done.


56 posted on 09/12/2015 7:51:11 AM PDT by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,)
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To: RC one

Got it, don’t point out facts. We’re done.


57 posted on 09/12/2015 8:02:32 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: elhombrelibre

Where did Al-Qaeda and its offshoot ISIS come from?

Russia created them while fighting its decade-long war to take over Afghanistan during the 1980s. Osama bin Laden created organized Middle Eastern jihadist terrorism by uniting anti-Russian Muslim radicals into what became Al-Qaeda, which helped defeat the Russians and expel them from Afghanistan.

So here are the Russians today, coming back to try to defeat today’s much-more powerful, brutal, and organized Al-Qaeda and ISIS armies in Syria, when it couldn’t even defeat the early fledgling, ragtag versions of those organizations when Russia was a superpower thirty-five years ago?

Today’s Russian army can’t even defeat the Ukrainian army, against which its been battling for more than a year to take over a small Russian-speaking portion of that country.

If Russia’s experience of losing wars over the past half-century is repeated in Syria, Al-Qaeda and ISIS will grow stronger than ever and Bashar al-Assad will be defeated and his allies, particularly Iran and Russia, will be weakened.

So bring it on, Vladimir.


58 posted on 09/12/2015 8:53:52 AM PDT by Bluestocking
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We’re reportedly about to see some familiar Russian faces in Syria — and that’s trouble

Natasha Bertrand
Sept 10, 2015

Some of the Russian troops reportedly being sent to Syria are from the same brigade that helped annex Crimea, according to a lengthy investigation conducted by Ruslan Leviev, a specialist in social-media intelligence.

The Kremlin has declined to comment, but, if true, “the deployment of an elite unit from Crimea, which inaugurated Russia’s standoff with the West, is an intriguing choice,” writes The Daily Beast’s Michael Weiss.

“Moscow has spent enormous resources moving troops into Crimea and eastern Ukraine over the past year. Moving even some of them out of the area to a different conflict zone, particularly one outside of Europe, gives the lie that sanctions and diplomatic isolation have forced the Kremlin into compromise,” Weiss writes:.

“Rather, Russia appears ready and willing to take on multiple wars at once,” he adds.

Russia initially said that it had only deployed “military experts” to Syria to help government forces learn how to use Russian military equipment.

But the Israeli defense minister and Reuters have confirmed that the Russians are taking part in the fighting on the side of Syrian President Bashar Assad and building up their military presence in the western coastal province of Latakia.

Boris Zilberman, a Middle East and Russia expert at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, told Business Insider by email that he thinks it makes logistical sense that Russia would deploy a brigade from Crimea to Syria, since the eastern Mediterranean is the responsibility of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet.

“It wouldn’t make sense to deploy these types of troops from Kamchatka [in far east Russia], for instance,” Zilberman said. “Also, seeing as how they’ve have recently participated in the annexation of Crimea, they are probably more combat-ready than others.”

An intelbrief released by The Soufan Group affirms that Putin’s latest incursion into Syria on the side of Bashar Assad is deliberate and aligned with Russian interests.

“While Russia has provided military assistance to Syria for decades, the recent apparent increase in support is noteworthy in both its timing and future implications,” the brief reads. “It is difficult to overstate Russian determination not to lose its influence in Syria via the Assad regime, which provides Russia with a Mediterranean and Middle Eastern base that cannot be replaced elsewhere.”
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More, plus terrific maps and charts, at:

http://www.businessinsider.com/were-about-to-see-some-familiar-russian-faces-in-syria-and-thats-not-good-2015-9

59 posted on 09/12/2015 9:02:34 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Russian build-up in Syria part of secret deal with Iran’s Quds Force leader

September 11, 2015
Jennifer Griffin, Lucas Tomlinson
FoxNews.com

As the Pentagon warily eyes a Russian military build-up in Syria, Western intelligence sources tell Fox News that the escalated Russian presence began just days after a secret Moscow meeting in late July between Iran’s Quds Force commander — their chief exporter of terror — and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Fox News has learned Quds head Qassem Soleimani and Putin discussed such a joint military plan for Syria at that meeting, an encounter first reported by Fox News in early August. ...”

The Quds Force is the international arm of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, involved in exporting terrorism to Iran’s proxies throughout the Middle East including Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen. ...”

Officials who have monitored the build-up say they’ve seen more than 1,000 Russian combatants — some of them from the same plainclothes Special Forces units who were sent to Crimea and Ukraine. Some of these Russian troops are logistical specialists and needed for security at the expanding Russian bases.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/11/russian-build-up-in-syria-part-secret-deal-with-irans-quds-force-leader/#

60 posted on 09/12/2015 9:21:00 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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