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30 North Carolina magistrates opt out of performing gay marriages; judge says it’s OK
Biz Pac Review ^ | 09/08/2015 | Jonah Hicap

Posted on 09/08/2015 2:35:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

More than 30 North Carolina magistrates so far have refused to perform weddings since the U.S. Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriages in all 50 states.

But they’re not likely to suffer the fate of Kim Davis, the Tennessee county clerk who was recently jailed for her refusal. It turns out that taking this position is legal in North Carolina, according to CBN.com.

Shortly after the Supreme Court’s June decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, which held that same-sex marriage is a constitutionally guaranteed right, the North Carolina legislature passed a law enabling officials to opt out of performing marriages altogether.

The law was designed to accommodate officials holding a “sincerely held religious objection” to same-sex marriage.

Senate President Pro Tem Phil Berger was the law’s original sponsor.

“It’s keeping folks from having to choose between their job and their religious beliefs,” he said. “I think that’s important.”

Berger added that there haven’t been any problems encountered with implementing the law so far.

“I think the law is working very well,” he said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; magistrates; northcarolina; optout; ssm
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Kentucky should simply pass a law similar to North Carolina in order to avoid any more court cases.
1 posted on 09/08/2015 2:35:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Lookout 10th Amendment.


2 posted on 09/08/2015 2:36:17 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Some people prefer doing what is right rather than what is hip.


3 posted on 09/08/2015 2:36:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Cecil the Lion says, Stop the Slaughter of the Baby Humans!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Get biddy Kintuck.


4 posted on 09/08/2015 2:41:52 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bump!


5 posted on 09/08/2015 2:41:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, but when the first sentence of an article is deeply flawed and is patently false; I tend to disregard the rest of the article.


6 posted on 09/08/2015 2:42:04 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: SeekAndFind

The story says they are not performing marriages.

Sounds like sexuality is not an issue. They’re just not performing marriages, period.

I don’t think that marrying couples is a mandated duty for a judge, whose responsibilities are primarily in the courtroom. Performing marriages may be optional, and these judges opted out. It is not their main job.

That’s the differences between these judges and the county clerk issue.

For a county clerk, issuing licenses IS a primary duty.

I’m solidly on the Kentucky clerk’s side in refusing to be involved in same-sex marriage, but she has no power to change law. Her only recourse, honestly, is to resign and find a job that doesn’t require her to do unholy things.


7 posted on 09/08/2015 2:43:56 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Responsibility2nd

Can you inform us please what’s wrong with the first sentence of the article?


8 posted on 09/08/2015 2:44:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: SeekAndFind

This seems somewhat similar to what the judge in Oregon is doing. He too (IIRC), opted out of performing marriages altogether, so as not to bring himself into a position where he might be faced with a situation that conflicted with his religious beliefs. This was by choice, rather than statute (performing marriage is (again, IIRC), an optional, rather than a required, duty for Oregon judges)

Naturally, the local gay activist group bigwig claimed it suggested this particular judge’s decision could be evidence of bias against gay defendants in any possible legal case. It’s not enough to take yourself out of the situation, it’s embrace 100% or be vilified as an enemy when you’re dealing with activists.


9 posted on 09/08/2015 2:44:21 PM PDT by DemforBush (Ex-Democrat, and NOT for Jeb. Just so we're *perfectly* clear this time.)
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I>"But they’re not likely to suffer the fate of Kim Davis, the Tennessee county clerk who was recently jailed for her refusal."

Is there more than one county clerk named Kim Davis?

10 posted on 09/08/2015 2:45:06 PM PDT by Redbob (Keep your hands off my great-great-grandfather's flag)
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To: SeekAndFind

And people said nullification doesn’t work...


11 posted on 09/08/2015 2:45:48 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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To: SeekAndFind

2nd sentence...


12 posted on 09/08/2015 2:46:58 PM PDT by Redbob (Keep your hands off my great-great-grandfather's flag)
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Can you inform us please what’s wrong with the first sentence of the article?

There are 57 states?

/JUST kidding

13 posted on 09/08/2015 2:47:01 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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To: Redbob

RE: 2nd sentence...

Thanks.

But if the article is not credible because of the second sentence, surely these articles that corroborate the news should compensate:

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/more.than.30.north.carolina.magistrates.refuse.to.officiate.marriagesbut.its.legal/63940.htm

and this:

http://www.teaparty.org/30-north-carolina-magistrates-opt-performing-gay-marriages-judge-says-ok-117459/


14 posted on 09/08/2015 2:51:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: SeekAndFind

The clerks asked them to do that 6 months ago. The dem Governor and House refused. Next election in My should be interesting.


15 posted on 09/08/2015 2:53:31 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: SeekAndFind
...the Supreme Court’s June decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, which held that same-sex marriage is a constitutionally guaranteed right

While the courts can interpret laws to create a right to marriage, there is one thing that the courts can NEVER do.

The courts can NEVER guarantee that, same-sex marriages will ever be the same as a marriage between a man and a woman. They can pretend to be equal under the law, but, in society and in cultures, they will never be thought of as equal. A 'right under the law' is not the same as the right to be thought of as the same or perceived as the same. Courts cannot legislate that all people view same-sex marriages as equal to man/woman marriages. IN fact, neither can legislatures.
16 posted on 09/08/2015 2:54:03 PM PDT by adorno (w)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s already legal, IMHO, in Kentucky and anywhere else that has a state Constitution and law defining such weddings as not legal.

The US Constitution does not address marriage. The 10th amendment to the US Constitution indicates very clearly that anything not addressed in the Constitution is left to the states or the people.

The woman in Kentucky is following Kentucky State law according to the Kentucky constitution.

Since it is not referred to or present in the U.S. Constitution, IMHO, the Supreme Court should have no standing in it...this issue is left, by constitutional decree, to the states.

Until the 10th amendment is either overturned, or another amendment alters it...the case should be closed in terms of the Supreme Court.


17 posted on 09/08/2015 2:54:19 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: SeekAndFind
Top Kentucky Senate leaders asked the judge to stay the order until they could call a special session to pass a similar law. However, they say that the governor has refused to call the special session, and it would have to wait for the next regular session.

-PJ

18 posted on 09/08/2015 2:54:22 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pay attention please:
I’m not the one saying the post was “not credible.”


19 posted on 09/08/2015 2:56:03 PM PDT by Redbob (Keep your hands off my great-great-grandfather's flag)
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To: Political Junkie Too

RE: it would have to wait for the next regular session.

1) When is the regular session going to be?

2) Assuming they pass the law, will the governor ( a Democrat ) sign it?


20 posted on 09/08/2015 2:57:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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