Posted on 09/02/2015 8:54:42 AM PDT by Kaslin
Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) has given President Obama the final vote necessary to secure victory for his controversial nuclear agreement with Iran. From the AP:
Senate Democrats have rallied the 34 votes they need to keep the Iran nuclear deal alive in Congress, handing President Barack Obama a major foreign policy victory.
Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland became the crucial 34th vote Wednesday morning, declaring the agreement is the best way to curb Iran's nuclear ambitions.
The Obama administration may have had a touch of nervousness in the past few weeks, as a couple of notable Senate Democrats brutally rejected the deal and others were still on the fence. They have also faced continual pressure from Republicans, who plan to vote on a disapproval resolution. Now, however, with 34 votes safely in his pocket, Obama has everything he needs to veto it.
Can I ask a stupid question?
Is this Iran “deal” legally binding, since they have gone around the constitutional requirement that a “treaty” be approved by 2/3 of the Senate??
In this case, we have a “deal”, not a “treaty”, and in this “deal”, they engineering things so that 1/3 plus 1 vote in Congress will sustain a presidential veto of Congressional disapproval, rather than following the Constitution, which would require a 2/3 affirmative vote of the Senate.
My stupid question is whether this “deal” is really legally binding as a “treaty” would be, since they have chosen to go outside the legal framework of a treaty???
I don’t know how, but apparently GOP voted to give up that power so that it only require simply majority. So all those who voted to give up that power are responsible for the Iran deal passing, which I think is every GOP senator. Their excuse on that vote was that it gives them a say in the process.
Then how did this crazy vote give them a say in the process?
After all, using the usual treaty ratification process, the GOP would have had a say.
Well, this deal stinks to high heaven, in my opinion, and the parliamentary absurdity the GOP participated in to allow for it also stinks to high heaven.
Either every GOP senator is extremely stupid or evil, which include Cruz and Rand
Oh 0bama’s proud of it, make no mistake. The ramifications resulting from this will be felt for decades to come.
The excuse of ‘fighting terrorism’ to strip us of our rights and trample on the Constitution will continue unabated now.
Why, who’s against ‘keeping us safe’?
I’m confused, I heard something like the US Senate could still block it with the votes. The votes of Mikulski means the Senate can’t override the veto. Perhaps I’ll find out more on this.
Psalm 69
The Senate doesn’t have that authority. The Constitution would have to be amended.
They’re showing it’s locked up so the stupid peasants will stop with the demonstrations. I hope it doesn’t deter people from showing up. These political maneuvers have worked too well in the past to defeat the opposition.
It’s not a final vote and it can be stopped.
Cruz voted against cloture, which was the real vote. Then he voted for it so he could offer amendments.
It’s not legally binding, given the completely unconstitutional basis. Congress cannot abdicate an expressed responsibility without amending the Constitution. However, it doesn’t matter when all three branches are committed to pretend it is the law.
We are truly in a state of absolute lawlessness and completely bereft of a course for redress.
Delaware Sen. Coons is going to vote for it even though he has grave reservations about it.
Must exercise Fascist Party loyalty above national security.
Obama's legacy should be time in JAIL!!
It’s a sad day for the country...
This is the Senate being lazy.
Take the vote, vote it down.
It still doesn’t pass. This isn’t legislation.
Not sure why this matters. They still don’t have the votes to approve it.
The US is party to thousands of international ‘agreements,’ and has been party to such agreements since the authors of the Constitution were still around.
Certainly they are theoretically not as binding as ‘treaties’, but no one has challenged them much either.
Background:
http://constitution.findlaw.com/article2/annotation12.html
“...It’s a sad day for the country...”
Allow me to slightly ammend your post.
It’s yet another sad day for the country.
It is indeed a sad day for the nation
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