Posted on 08/30/2015 3:43:02 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows
Values.
That’s the one thing that always came up when I’d discuss theories on declining marriage rates or the rise of the hookup culture with my friends or family.
“Couldn’t it just be that times have changed?” people would ask.
Times have changed, and that is a good thing—especially the fading-away of cruel taboos that once stigmatized women who engaged in premarital sex or bore children out of wedlock.
Thing is, times change for a reason. The values question assumes that sexual mores loosen naturally from conservative to liberal. In reality, these values have ebbed and flowed throughout history, often in conjunction with prevailing sex ratios.
Today, mainstream dating guides tell the everything-going-for-her career woman it’s her fault she’s still single—she just needs to play hard to get or follow a few simple rules to snag Mr. Right. But the problem is a demographic one.
Multiple studies show that college-educated Americans are increasingly reluctant to marry those lacking a college degree. This bias is having a devastating impact on the dating market for college-educated women. Why? According to 2012 population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey, there are 5.5 million college-educated women in the U.S. between the ages of 22 and 29 versus 4.1 million such men. That’s four women for every three men. Among college grads age 30 to 39, there are 7.4 million women versus 6.0 million men—five women for every four men.
It’s not that He’s Just Not That Into You—it’s that There Just Aren’t Enough of Him.
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Paying $100,000 in support to your daughter and son-in-law over several years is kind of like paying for college. Lots of middle-class families probably could manage it, with advance planning.
If our oldest son had been a resident student at the local state university for four years, instead of doing his first two years at community college and living at home until graduation, it would have cost nearly $100,000.
On the other hand, how much have I spent on wine because having him at home is driving me crazy ...
Again, true.
Reality has a way of intruding on peoples illusions.
> I’ve long felt that urban living is incompatible with a normal family life for most people.
That is a VERY interesting idea.
Of course, these are the students who come out of these institutions, get a job and before you know it are screaming racism! homophobia! at the poor boss. And then they go out and buy a weapon.
Good point!
I concur. I’ve heard it unironically suggested that it’s during the times of greatest alienation from society at large that Jews flourish as Jews.
This Is What Happens When Men And Women From Different Countries Get Stranded Together
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/this-is-what-happens-when-men-and-women-from-different-countries-get-stranded-together
I’d be very interested in your take from the Alberta perspective. I’m from the States but spent most of the past 20 years in Ontario. Alberta, with a white collar city, a blue collar city, and a rural population, each of roughly equal size, has always struck me as inherently healthier. I’m guessing that, from a looking-for-a-spouse perspective, that Edmonton would be a great city to be a woman and Calgary a great city to be a man.
Spot on. The War on Men and Boys continues.
And that's the way it was and we LIKED IT!
But not unexpected where kids become a commodity and marriage a negotiation.
I would rather see multiple studies on the majors of the college-educated women to see if they correspond to those of the spouses they purport to seek. If a wife wants to be materially supported by a husband, or to support a husband, was the degree worth the investment ?
>>but beyond that, it’s highly likely Mr. Welder is a self-reliant type that probably knows how to repair almost anything.
I was thinking the same thing. She will find some educated pajama boy who has to hire an electrician to put up a ceiling fan...and then she’ll cheat on pajama boy with some “bad boy” she meets in a bar. And then she’ll wind up divorced and whining about how she never meets any good men, but she’ll insist that you not “be judgin’ me”.
That is a good point but confined to the US where income and class are synonymous. Even here most would make a distinction between professional class and working class. It’s a question of upward mobility.
Sadly, Miss 30k a year is unaware that if she’s over 25 she is not that attractive to any young man much less primo ones.
For later
It really might just be me, but as a hard-working man in his 30’s in an area where I should be at an advantage I’ve found it nearly impossible to find a woman who isn’t either overweight, tatted-up, or have a very strict checklist of qualities they want in a partner. It’s not that hard to find a sex partner, but I’ve just about given up on finding someone decent and marriage-minded.
I went through a lot of that, too.
The stories I could tell.
One of my clients had a gal working there; complained because she couldn’t find a decent guy. Wound up marrying (I think) of our consulting companies guys. He seemed nice but was quite the jerk for ridiculous reasons. I’m guessing she went out with him because he had a foreign accent.
I had to work with him. I knew what he was like. Oh well. Probably dodged a bullet with her. That’s just one of the very mild stories, LOL.
s/b “consulting company’s”
The jerks don’t seem to have much of a problem finding someone — if you’re willing to lie and put on pretenses it makes things much easier.
Did you ever find someone?
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