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Donald Trump Just Stopped Being Funny (Rolling Stone)
Rolling Stone ^ | 21 Aug 15 | Matt Taibbi

Posted on 08/21/2015 2:22:07 PM PDT by Drew68

Win or lose, Trump's campaign threatens to unleash the Great American Stupid

So two yahoos from Southie in my hometown of Boston severely beat up a Hispanic homeless guy earlier this week. While being arrested, one of the brothers reportedly told police that "Donald Trump was right, all of these illegals need to be deported."

When reporters confronted Trump, he hadn't yet heard about the incident. At first, he said, "That would be a shame." But right after, he went on:

"I will say, the people that are following me are very passionate. They love this country. They want this country to be great again. But they are very passionate. I will say that."

This is the moment when Donald Trump officially stopped being funny.

The thing is, even as Donald Trump said and did horrible things during this year's incredible run at the White House, most sane people took solace in the fact that he could never win. (Although new polls are showing that Hillary's recent spiral puts this reassuring thought into jeopardy.)

In fact, most veteran political observers figured that the concrete impact of Trump's candidacy would be limited in the worst case to destroying the Republican Party as a mainstream political force.

That made Trump's run funny, campy even, like a naughty piece of pornographic performance art. After all, what's more obscene than pissing on the presidency? It seemed even more like camp because the whole shtick was fronted by a veteran reality TV star who might even be in on the joke, although of course the concept was funnier if he wasn't.

Trump had the whole country rubbernecking as this preposterous Spaulding Smails caricature of a spoiled rich kid drove the family Rolls (our illustrious electoral process in this metaphor) off the road into a ditch. It was brilliant theater for a while, but the ugliness factor has gotten out of control.

Trump is probably too dumb to realize it, or maybe he isn't, but he doesn't need to win anything to become the most dangerous person in America. He can do plenty of damage just by encouraging people to be as uninhibited in their stupidity as he is.

Trump is striking a chord with people who are feeling the squeeze in a less secure world and want to blame someone – the government, immigrants, political correctness, "incompetents," "dummies," Megyn Kelly, whoever – for their problems.

Karl Rove and his acolytes mined a lot of the same resentments to get Republicans elected over the years, but the difference is that Trump's political style encourages people to do more to express their anger than just vote. The key to his success is a titillating message that those musty old rules about being polite and "saying the right thing" are for losers who lack the heart, courage and Trumpitude to just be who they are.

His signature moment in a campaign full of them was his exchange in the first debate with Fox's Kelly. She asked him how anyone with a history of calling women "fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals" could win a general election against a female candidate like Hillary Clinton.

"I've been challenged by so many people," Trump answered. "I frankly don't have time for political correctness. And to be honest with you, the country doesn't have time either….We don't win anymore. We lose to China. We lose to Mexico….We lose to everybody."

On the surface, Kelly was just doing her job as a journalist, throwing Trump's most outrageous comments back at him and demanding an explanation.

But on another level, she was trying to bring Trump to heel. The extraction of the humiliating public apology is one of the media's most powerful weapons. Someone becomes famous, we dig up dirt on the person, we rub it in his or her nose, and then we demand that the person get down on bended knee and beg forgiveness.

The Clintons' 1992 joint interview on 60 Minutes was a classic example, as was Anthony Weiner's prostration before Andrew Breitbart and Chris Christie's 107-minute marathon apologia after Bridgegate. The subtext is always the same: If you want power in this country, you must accept the primacy of the press. It's like paying the cover at the door of the world's most exclusive club.

Trump wouldn't pay the tab. Not only was he not wrong for saying those things, he explained, but holding in thoughts like that is bad for America. That's why we don't win anymore, why we lose to China and to Mexico (how are we losing to Mexico again?). He was saying that hiding forbidden thoughts about women or immigrants or whoever isn't just annoying, but bad for America.

It's not exactly telling people to get out there and beat people with metal rods. But when your response to news that a couple of jackasses just invoked your name when they beat the crap out of a homeless guy is to salute your "passionate" followers who "love this country," you've gone next-level.

The political right in America has been flirting with dangerous ideas for a while now, particularly on issues involving immigrants and minorities. But in the last few years the rhetoric has gotten particularly crazy.

Texas Congressman Louie Gohmert proposed using troops and ships of war to stop an invasion of immigrant children, whom he described as a 28 Days Later-style menace. "We don't even know all of the diseases, and how extensive the diseases are," he said.

"A lot of head lice, a lot of scabies," concurred another Texas congressman, Blake Farenthold.

"I'll do anything short of shooting them," promised Mo Brooks, a congressman from the enlightened state of Alabama.

Then there's Iowa's Steve King, who is unusually stupid even for a congressman. He not only believes a recent Supreme Court decision on gay marriage allows people to marry inanimate objects, but also believes the EPA may have intentionally spilled three million gallons of toxic waste into Colorado's Animas river in order to get Superfund money.

Late last year, King asked people to "surround the president's residence" in response to Barack Obama's immigration policies. He talked about putting "boots on the ground" and said "everything is on the table" in the fight against immigrants.

So all of this was in the ether even before Donald Trump exploded into the headlines with his "They're rapists" line, and before his lunatic, Game of Thrones idea to build a giant wall along the southern border. But when Trump surged in the polls on the back of this stuff, it caused virtually all of the candidates to escalate their anti-immigrant rhetoric.

For example, we just had Ben Carson – who seems on TV like a gentle, convivial doctor who's just woken up from a nice nap – come out and suggest that he's open to using drone strikes on U.S. soil against undocumented immigrants. Bobby Jindal recently came out and said mayors in the so-called "sanctuary cities" should be arrested when undocumented immigrants commit crimes. Scott Walker and Marco Rubio have both had to change their positions favoring paths to citizenship as a result of the new dynamic.

Meanwhile, Rick Santorum, polling at a brisk zero percent, joined Jindal and Lindsey Graham in jumping aboard with Trump's insane plan to toss the 14th Amendment out the window and revoke the concept of birthright citizenship, thereby extending the war on immigrants not just to children, but babies.

All of this bleeds out into the population. When a politician says dumb thing X, it normally takes ‘Murica about two days to start flirting publicly with X + way worse.

We saw that earlier this week, when Iowa radio host Jan Mickelson blew up Twitter by calling for undocumented immigrants to become "property of the state" and put into "compelled labor." When a caller challenged the idea, Mickelson answered, "What's wrong with slavery?"

Why there's suddenly this surge of hatred for immigrants is sort of a mystery. Why Donald Trump, who's probably never even interacted with an undocumented immigrant in a non-commercial capacity, in particular should care so much about this issue is even more obscure. (Did he trip over an immigrant on his way to the Cincinnati housing development his father gave him as a young man?)

Most likely, immigrants are just collateral damage in Trump's performance art routine, which is an absurd ritualistic celebration of the coiffed hotshot endlessly triumphing over dirty losers and weaklings.

Trump isn't really a politician, of course. He's a strongman act, a ridiculous parody of a Nietzschean superman. His followers get off on watching this guy with (allegedly) $10 billion and a busty mute broad on his arm defy every political and social convention and get away with it.

People are tired of rules and tired of having to pay lip service to decorum. They want to stop having to watch what they say and think and just get "crazy," as Thomas Friedman would put it.

Trump's campaign is giving people permission to do just that. It's hard to say this word in conjunction with such a sexually unappealing person, but his message is a powerful aphrodisiac. F--- everything, f--- everyone. F--- immigrants and f--- their filthy lice-ridden kids. And f--- you if you don't like me saying so.

Those of us who think polls and primaries and debates are any match for that are pretty naive. America has been trending stupid for a long time. Now the stupid wants out of its cage, and Trump is urging it on. There are a lot of ways this can go wrong, no matter who wins in 2016.


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To: Drew68
So two yahoos from Southie in my hometown of Boston severely beat up a Hispanic homeless guy earlier this week. While being arrested, one of the brothers reportedly told police that "Donald Trump was right, all of these illegals need to be deported."

This sounds so false. Clearly it's designed to make Trump supporters look like crazies. I doubt if this was said at all and if it's not on tape then it's strictly rumor and hearsay.

21 posted on 08/21/2015 2:36:48 PM PDT by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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To: Drew68

Hey Rolling Stone, how about a cover photo of Trump.


22 posted on 08/21/2015 2:37:03 PM PDT by mware
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To: Drew68

Trump had a tweet this morning say there was no call for what these guys did. But the author probably read and ignored it.


23 posted on 08/21/2015 2:37:33 PM PDT by McGruff (Trump/Cruz 2016 - My Dream Team)
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To: Drew68

I stopped reading Rolling Stoned in COLLEGE because it was too stupid and pointless. Nothing has changed.


24 posted on 08/21/2015 2:39:08 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Drew68

Good point. They are definitely upset and worried.

We were listening to Andrew Wilcow on the way home from the mall this afternoon; he had Monica Crowley on. They agreed that the Democrat ticket will be Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren.


25 posted on 08/21/2015 2:39:24 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("All the time live the truth with love in your heart." ~Fr. Ho Lung)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
I stopped reading Rolling Stoned in COLLEGE because it was too stupid and pointless. Nothing has changed.

It is an incredibly stupid and pointless publication.

26 posted on 08/21/2015 2:39:53 PM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/Cruz)
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To: Drew68

Rolling Stone! They are incredible!


27 posted on 08/21/2015 2:40:00 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republican Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: Drew68

“First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.”


28 posted on 08/21/2015 2:40:07 PM PDT by Gulf War One
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To: Drew68

Wow, a monkey typed this article by randomly pecking on the keys. No, Shakespeare Plays,yet.


29 posted on 08/21/2015 2:40:58 PM PDT by Leep (Cut the crap!)
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To: Vigilanteman

That’s a good point, too.


30 posted on 08/21/2015 2:42:05 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("All the time live the truth with love in your heart." ~Fr. Ho Lung)
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To: Drew68
Lindsey Graham in jumping aboard with Trump's insane plan to toss the 14th Amendment out the window and revoke the concept of birthright citizenship

Linda did that?

You go girl!

31 posted on 08/21/2015 2:43:15 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Drew68

Hey Matt,

I heard Trump raped someone, somewhere, once. You should run with that.


32 posted on 08/21/2015 2:43:44 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Drew68

Wow, guess I’ll have to change my opinion ‘cuz the marshmallow-majors at the Rolling Stone said so.

/s


33 posted on 08/21/2015 2:45:03 PM PDT by Da Coyote (Di)
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To: Drew68

Consider the source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus


34 posted on 08/21/2015 2:45:52 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Da Coyote

Wish the Rolling Stoners had the same pseudo compassion for the victims of real crimes committed by real illegals.


35 posted on 08/21/2015 2:48:14 PM PDT by Luke21 (Go Ted go.)
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To: Tax-chick

And we care what these yoohoos think because ... ?

I think you misunderstood him. It’s YOU and ME who are the yahoos. And everyone who would vote for Trump. If Trump wasn’t in the race it would be everyone who would vote for any republican.


36 posted on 08/21/2015 2:48:19 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Since you're so much smarter than me, don't waste your time insulting me. I won't understand it.)
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To: samtheman

Which University this time?!


37 posted on 08/21/2015 2:49:31 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Drew68
Trump's campaign threatens to unleash the Great American Stupid

Ummmm.....Obama was unleashed well before Trump's campaign.

38 posted on 08/21/2015 2:50:21 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: MarvinStinson

Maybe they’re taking requests.


39 posted on 08/21/2015 2:50:57 PM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/Cruz)
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To: VerySadAmerican

There’s that, too. We’ve *finally* stopped receiving “Rolling Stone,” because it’s been more than a year since any household member bought concert tickets through Ticketmaster. I usually threw them straight in the trash on the way in from the mailbox, but once in a while the cover mentioned a musician who interested me.

I kind of had a soft spot for them because P.J. O’Rourke used to write for them, but most of the content is absolute garbage, and the ads are disgusting.


40 posted on 08/21/2015 2:52:20 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("All the time live the truth with love in your heart." ~Fr. Ho Lung)
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