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Are Lawyers Getting Dumber? Empty Theory or Troubling Trend? (Historically Low LSAT Scores )
Wall Street Journal (Law Blog) ^ | 08/20/2015 | JACOB GERSHMAN

Posted on 08/20/2015 4:24:35 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen

Last year’s historic plunge in bar exam passage rates triggered a firestorm of theorizing about what it could mean.

The fallout hasn’t stopped, as indicated by the cover of the latest issue of Bloomberg Businessweek, whose headline asks: “Are Lawyers Getting Dumber?”

The story mostly focuses on the feud between the woman who runs the National Conference of Bar Examiners and law school deans over who’s responsible for the dramatic decline in student performance.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.wsj.com ...


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I think I know the problem.
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1 posted on 08/20/2015 4:24:35 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

The only data more closely held than Baraq’s LSATs is his golf scores....


2 posted on 08/20/2015 4:29:06 PM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I have a neighbor who is a lawyer and a CPA. He graduated from Ole Miss and for that reason did not even have to take the Mississippi Bar.

He did pass the Florida Bar which he told me is one of the more difficult ones.

I asked him which was more difficult between the Bar and CPA exam and he said the CPA was much tougher.


3 posted on 08/20/2015 4:31:01 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Affirmative action for the intellectually challenged?

The profession has to protect their own major demographic, you know. “The Law” is some secret society, extended to only a few, who have the occult powers granted by law schools throughout the land, to twist and redefine every word of the English language, in either spoken or written form.


4 posted on 08/20/2015 4:32:20 PM PDT by alloysteel (If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Some 40+ years ago, I was searching for a major in college. I took a look at a paperback to eke out higher LSAT scores. The questions and answers were so general and easy, I decided on a course to Pre-Med.


5 posted on 08/20/2015 4:33:17 PM PDT by Does so (SCOTUS Newbies Will Imperil America...)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Oh my...affirmative


6 posted on 08/20/2015 4:33:19 PM PDT by wildwoodla
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To: Kid Shelleen

Too many questions on the test related to the Constitution and actual jurisprudence instead of what these young college grads know, social justice.


7 posted on 08/20/2015 4:33:34 PM PDT by ImNotLying
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To: wildwoodla

Smart phones, dumb people.


8 posted on 08/20/2015 4:34:47 PM PDT by refermech
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To: refermech

Also lots of minorities with low scores are being let in.


9 posted on 08/20/2015 4:35:50 PM PDT by refermech
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To: Kid Shelleen

These are the lawyers who’d sued to have warning labels on microwaved food cautioning you to be careful because it’s hot when being microwaved for eight to ten minutes. You’ve been warned.


10 posted on 08/20/2015 4:36:57 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Kid Shelleen

LOL, Brooklyn Law School. They charge more than Harvard/Yale/Stanford to go there, and nobody gives a damn about a law degree from that trash tier school. No surprise that the dean there wants the standards of the LSAT lowered.

Fun fact: LSAT scores can be used for admission into Mensa. The qualifying score is 167 (joke school score); anyone who can’t get at least a 170 on the test shouldn’t be cut out to be a lawyer. I think a lot of the Democrats in the field come from the Thomas Cooley law school, the most laughable law school of them all.


11 posted on 08/20/2015 4:39:15 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: Objective Scrutator

No...it is only becoming more apparent now.


12 posted on 08/20/2015 4:40:10 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Yes, social engineering is a big part; but not the only part. During the boom days leading up to the Bush/Obama depression, law schools were big business and cash cows. Even though the economy crashed, law schools still have to pay their bills, which means they are filling seats with a lower intellect students — of all races and ethnicities. From the early 70s until recently, underqualified applicants got into law school because of social engineering. Now they get in because of the economic needs of the law school.


13 posted on 08/20/2015 4:42:45 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Kid Shelleen

When my daughter was researching colleges in the late 90s, she presented this interesting factoid. Which, IMO, accounts a lot for why we are in such dire straits.

Of entering freshmen with declared majors, the two majors with the *lowest* average SAT scores are..........

Law & education


14 posted on 08/20/2015 4:43:23 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: Kid Shelleen

The addition to the headline says “LSAT scores” but the article talks about a falling rate in passing the bar and those are two very different things, correct? The LSAT being an entrance exam for law school and the bar exam being what says you’re certified to practice law in a state?

That said, I can’t say it seems like we’ve had a derth of lawyers lately....


15 posted on 08/20/2015 4:43:36 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Kid Shelleen

When congressman Hank (Guam’s gonna sink) Johnson passes a bar exam, that bar exam is a joke.


16 posted on 08/20/2015 4:46:34 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (ThereÂ’s a race war already raging, I didnÂ’t start it but I have chosen sides.)
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To: yarddog

In the cpa exam you cant fudge math.


17 posted on 08/20/2015 4:51:25 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Labyrinthos

I worked for a lot of lawyers and often wondered how hard could law school be.


18 posted on 08/20/2015 5:03:48 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: JenB
Your are correct. Good point. The LSAT comment was my editorial comment. Sorry for the confusion.
I added that because the liberal narrative is that LSAT scores do NOT predict success in law school but obviously lower standards have consequences.

19 posted on 08/20/2015 5:11:09 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Diversity rules everything else. You reap what you sow.


20 posted on 08/20/2015 5:11:39 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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