I have made my ruling.
They are citizens you moron.
Posted on 08/20/2015 12:01:48 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
Mediaite and Politico are running headlines for this segment claiming that Trump said the Fourteenth Amendment is unconstitutional, which is cute but unfair. What he's saying, in his own...folksy way, is that he thinks the Supremes will side with him in finding that birth right citizenship under the Constitution doesn't apply to children of illegals. What's newsy is him implying that that ruling should apply not just prospectively but retroactively ("I don't think they have American citizenship") meaning that many thousands of people - some now adults - who have lived all their lives in America would suddenly find themselves stateless.
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In fact, they didn't. Their parents considered citizenship here so valuable that they stole it. And they had the use of it for quite a while, which nobody can take away from them, or even wants to. But we're a nation (almost as sovereign as Mexico . . .) and we have to protect our own citizens first—otherwise, we can't take care of others, either, because we won't exist.
If we let an infinite number of (for example) Mexicans or Guatemalans in permanently, we become the country they ran away from!
If my Parents robbed a Bank and got away with $5 Million Dollars, Then My Family and I lived on that Stolen Money for many years, and then they gave what was left to me right before they both Got ARRESTED for the Robbery. It is MY MONEY RIGHT??
So, if a couple from anywhere outside the US buys tickets to visit the US, and the woman is pregnant and delivers in the US, the child is an American citizen? That’s ridiculous. If this is true, one could start a viable business of ‘pregnancy tourism’ for people who wanted their children to have automatic US citizenship.
I agree. The interpretation of the 14th Amendment was flawed. Those who made that interpretaton—Justice Brennen—have hell to pay. It is just like a worker on a food production line that drops a pin in the flour mixer. The entire run of product goes off the shelves and gets dumped. However, because these are human beings, I would not make the correct interpretation apply retroactively. I would mark a date on the calendar and call it the 14th Amendment Reset Day. All those born after that day do not have birthright citizenship.
The amendment is quite clear as to “subject to the laws of the United States” which the illegals and their anchor babies are not.
I want Trump to keep saying “I don’t think they have American citizenship.”
Me too.... but the idea came from Ted Cruz..
Good idea no matter the source..
Cruz has other good IDEAS TRUMP REJECTS....
Like making Crony Capitalism even more ILLEGAL...
Prosecuting THEM... sending them to the SLAMMER..
TRUMP will never go for THAT....
Cause the Cronys is WHY HE IS RUNNING in the first place..
you know. to PROTECT THEM FROM CRUZ...
You can take your buddy TNMOUTH of your ping list, he got the ZOT!
Children born to illegals are not citizens.
People who have been counted as citizens until now will probably not be denied it retroactively. But that shouldn’t prevent us from correcting a mistake moving forward.
What he’s saying, in his own...folksy way, is that he thinks the Supremes will side with him in finding that birth right citizenship under the Constitution doesn’t apply to children of illegals.
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I wouldn’t count on it. The Roberts Court makes up its own laws and definitions as it wishes.
In fact several countries have done exactly that. Chinese pregnancy tourism is well known.
They clearly do have citizenship under the current Nationality Act. Whether the birthright citizenship provisions of that statute could be repealed without violating the 14th Amendment is debatable, but to say they “don’t have” citizenship is just plain wrong.
Care to put your money where your mouth is?
Name it, loser pays it to the next FReepathon.
Its as superflous as those parts of Article II regarding the election of the Vice President.
Time for it to go.
GO TRUMP!!!!
And then they started flying the Mexican Flag at PROTESTS AGAINST US!!!! THAT DID IT!! ADIOS!!
What’s funny here, is that Jeb Bush’s wife would have been one of the “stateless”. She’s probably a citizen by now, and being married to an American she no doubt has applied and is a citizen now, but in her early years she was an illegal according to stuff I have read online.
Seems fair to me since Amnesty has been offered. "You were here when we granted amnesty, fine. You came after that door closed, you missed your opportunity."
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