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1 posted on 08/20/2015 10:57:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Hillary’s intent, apparently, is to muddy the waters so that it is not clear to anyone whether there even was any classified information on her secret email server. And if there was no classified information in the first place, then what is all the fuss about?

To paraphrase Bill:

“IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE MEANING OF ‘CLASSIFIED’ IS”.


2 posted on 08/20/2015 10:57:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (qu)
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This is really grasping at straws. I can guarantee you any one of the 17 ICs are cussing at her right now, regardless of their personal political affiliations.

This is just beyond horseshit, frankly.

There is simply no ambiguity with respect to the requirements for generating, sourcing and disposition of officially classified material. None.


3 posted on 08/20/2015 11:02:05 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Here are your choices, Hillary.

1. There was indeed no classified information on your server, despite the analysis of the intelligence community to the contrary.

2. There was classified information on your server.

Exactly one of the above must be true. The known fact is that you had no other email address for almost your entire time as Secretary of State. Therefore, if 1 is true, then you did absolutely nothing as Secretary of State. If 2 is true, then you violated the law and probably committed many felonies, each of which is punishable by years in prison. Which is it, Hillary?

6 posted on 08/20/2015 11:02:55 AM PDT by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
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Trump may be right! These people are just incompetent!!
7 posted on 08/20/2015 11:03:03 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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I would love to see that shrew dragged off to prison, but it won’t happen. Royalty is not held to the same standards as normal people.


11 posted on 08/20/2015 11:08:19 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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So this has nothing to do with her. But her emails are the subject of the investigation.

Does she really enjoy insulting everyone’s intelligence??


12 posted on 08/20/2015 11:09:15 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.


13 posted on 08/20/2015 11:09:19 AM PDT by dirtymac
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The key here is that it is not up to Hillary or her minions what the meaning is.

Someone took the labels off from the information. Who took it off, when, and at who’s direction.

My guess is that some Administrative assistant was told to take the classified markings off under the false impression that without the markings, no one would recognize what they were if they were intercepted.

What a bunch of morons.


14 posted on 08/20/2015 11:11:49 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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People have little understanding of the government “information security” system related to classified information.

Some government peons (civil servants and military) and government contractor peons need to work with information that is “classified.” In relation to the Defense Department, this is generally about protecting advanced technology and operational techniques. I assume that the State Department also has some protection for privaleged communications about diplomacy.

People who work with classified information must have a clearance equal to or higher than the classification of the information they will handle. They are required to actually need the info to do their job, to sign for the classified documents they receive, to follow specified practices to protect the information from unauthorized disclosure, and to return the documents or have them properly destroyed.

The classified information they receive will already have been marked with a classification. This classification will have been established by people and a security bureaurocracy based on rules. (This system is abused some to hide information from the public only to avoid embarrassment.)

In contrast, a few people in government are involved in initial acquisition or development of information that should be classified. Management exercises some control to try to ensure that such information gets properly classified. The criteria are complex and ambiguous. Departments have security bureaurocracies to try to get it done right. I expect that they all have some rules in place to try to keep their department heads and staffs from fouling things up since the political appointees are going to be ignorant on information security matters.

Hillary probably knew so little about information security that she looked at it like a peon if she ever had a thought about it. To her, the info wasn’t marked as classified so it wasn’t classified. A Secretary of State who actually did her job would no doubt have some communications that should not be publicly released. One who had been in the bureaurocracy would likely have an inkling that some information she originated or received should be considered sensitive, and therefore be “classified” BY HER. She never worked in a federal department. Her deficiency in this case was that she knew so little about managing a federal department that she had security views like a worker peon rather than a high-level manager.


16 posted on 08/20/2015 11:13:35 AM PDT by beenhereforever
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For that matter, Mrs. Clinton, what is “personal”?


17 posted on 08/20/2015 11:14:22 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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When you are in such a sesitive, high level position like Sec of State, even something as seemingly mundane as your daily meeting schedule is secret.

For example, if two foreign countries could be about to go to war and one sees the American Sec of State meeting with the other sides ambassadors and military generals, followed by meetings with our military followed by a meeting with the President, the country could conclude that the US is about to attack on behalf of their enemy and thus execute a preemptive strike.

This is not just a hypothetical scenario

In fact, a very similar situation with diplomatic intercepts between Russia and Egypt is what forced Israel to launch the Six Day War in 1967.

The damage Hillary has done to national security will probably never be known because Hillary has tried to destroy the evidence to protect her self from prosecution

18 posted on 08/20/2015 11:14:40 AM PDT by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Miller)
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FR thread -- Hillary Clinton Campaign Says Classified Emails Were on Server -- Post #12 links to a youtube audio of 2 experts talking to Michael Savage regarding the treatment of classified materials.

If these 2 callers are correct, and they certainly seem to know what they are talking about, Hillary's server setup was no small matter. It would have been well beyond attaching a laptop to an external hard drive.

Then, the Clinton setup would have to interface with the State Department email system. That would also be no small matter, considering the levels of security involved. One apparently cannot just dial into the SoS email system.


20 posted on 08/20/2015 11:15:32 AM PDT by TomGuy
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What is “prison” anyway? I mean depends on how you look at being the property of the government, getting your meals paid for, your housing, all transportation costs, I mean, seems like just the thing she has now. So, why worry, Hillary, we’ll just be changing your job classification.


21 posted on 08/20/2015 11:16:31 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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And “People do it all the time!”


22 posted on 08/20/2015 11:16:46 AM PDT by sarasota
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I thought she was the smartest woman in the world now she is a dumbtw@t.


23 posted on 08/20/2015 11:18:50 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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I was watching Judge Napolitano this morning. He said she’s pulling semantic tricks like Bill used to by saying there were no emails marked “Classified”. I think Judge N. said that is technically true, as no emails are marked “Classified”. They’re marked “Secret”, “Top Secret”, “Confidential”, but not “Classified”. So it’s her method of not really lying while lying like a rug.

Bill said he did not have sex with “that woman, Ms. Lewinsky. Not a single time.” He was telling the truth. He didn’t do it a “single time”; he did it many times. They are so good at word-smithing.


25 posted on 08/20/2015 11:20:01 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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A 3rd grade level of “the dog ate my homework”.

Like phony $100,000 cattle trading profit, (a bribe of course funneled through a trading account) and many other lies in her career.

She is immensely incompetent and morally deficient.


26 posted on 08/20/2015 11:20:15 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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Hillary wins another Clontonian Linguistic Award today for the What Is ,,,,,, is ,, is . . .


28 posted on 08/20/2015 11:22:37 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 ()-: 0bamanomics is the equal distribution of adolescent propaganda & indoctrination :-)
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Likely Scenario:

Huma reads an important classified Fax that has been classified by the CIA. She wants to advise Hillary on something related to the information she just read.

What Huma WON'T DO: Quote verbatim from the classified sections of the FAX.

What Huma WILL DO: Reword the classified information in a way that she believes is OK to send in the clear.

I believe this is what the IGs and the Intelligence Agencies are seeing. They are seeing Huma’s failures to successfully rewrite otherwise classified information and then release it onto the public Internet.

And I'm not attempting to defend Huma or Hillary here. I'm just acknowledging that they both know the rules and probably did their best to avoid releasing classified data.

But that is, IMHO, an impossible task and that is why Hillary needs to be charged, convicted and jailed for setting up a system using the public Internet that inevitably would allow the release of U.S. Classified information.

31 posted on 08/20/2015 11:24:15 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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“Does anyone really know what the meaning of “is” is?
I ask you ladies and gentlemen of America.


33 posted on 08/20/2015 11:26:56 AM PDT by Signalman
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