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Why You Don’t Hear about Discrimination against Persons with Down Syndrome
nationalreview.com ^ | Matthew Hennessey August 18, 2015

Posted on 08/19/2015 10:38:43 AM PDT by Morgana

It sure is funny what makes news and what gets ignored. Have you heard about the Christian bakers who refused to make wedding cakes for gay couples? Of course you have. But I’ll bet you didn’t hear about the dance studio that refused service to a little girl with Down syndrome. Last week, Tricia and Jason Winnicki tried to enroll their eight-year-old daughter, Anna, in classes at a dance studio in Lancaster, N.Y., a suburb of Buffalo. The Winnickis told a local television station that the owner of the studio refused them. “I really don’t think we would be comfortable with that,” he reportedly said. “We don’t have any way to manage her in our studios. There are special schools for people like her, and she should go find those schools.” He’s right; there are special schools. But girls like Anna are under no obligation to attend them. The Americans with Disabilities Act couldn’t be clearer. If you run a business, you can’t discriminate against people based on disability. The whole episode is an outrage, but I’m guessing you’re hearing about it for the first time. The New York Times hasn’t picked it up. CNN hasn’t done a segment on it. A story like this stays a local story when the victim is not a member of one of the “right” oppressed minority groups. For my money, here’s the most outrageous detail of Anna’s story. The television station — News4, WIVB — refused to disclose the name of the studio that sent her away because “they couldn’t be reached for comment.” In a follow-up, News4 noted:

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: downsyndrome; homosexualagenda; prolife; trisomy21
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To: NorthMountain
Heh ... Let's try something a little different. Let's put her in a graduate school level Quantum Physics class. Heck ... let's put YOU in a graduate school level Quantum Physics class. And stipulate that the professor has to make sure that she (or you) manages to "keep up". What do you suppose the result will be?

Nice, assuming I or others could not keep up, another brush stroke of ignorance.

21 posted on 08/19/2015 11:47:54 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: RedStateRocker

Safety and ability come into play, don’t they? Probably not, but seems like they should. Dancing is a physical activity and while Down Syndrome children are precious, they are not physically or intellectually able to do what their non DS peers can do. It is more than just physical access to a building or a bathroom.

I’m probably wrong. The world has placed its collective brain into a blender and it has lost all attachment to reason and logic.


22 posted on 08/19/2015 11:53:58 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: RedStateRocker

BTW, I was visiting a friend in Texas once and rode with her to her bank’s drive thru ATM. The buttons had braille on them. BRAILLE! It is a drive up ATM. Hello? If you are blind I would hope that you are not driving.


23 posted on 08/19/2015 11:55:46 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Yeah, I think that (Braille ATM’s ) is funny too. :-)
Of course the real reason is that they use the same keypad assemblies as all other ATM’s, so it would be way more expensive to have non Braille keys (I mean how much more does adding those dots cost spread out over thousands of such assemblies).

You want to hear something really stupid- facilities in national and state parks that require a multi mile SERIOUS hike have to be wheelchair accessible!


24 posted on 08/19/2015 12:00:40 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: RedStateRocker

LOL. Gotta love the government.


25 posted on 08/19/2015 12:04:43 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Morgana

Because Down’s kids are not in a goverment-certified official victim group. And they don’t give money to politicians’ campaigns. And the feminazis wanted them aborted.


26 posted on 08/19/2015 12:06:28 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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To: New Perspective
assuming I or others could not keep up

Well ... Can you?

Maybe you're part of the tiny fraction of a percent of the population that is actually capable of understanding Quantum Physics at that level. Perhaps you have achieved a Ph. D. degree in theoretical physics. Congratulations!

Try NFL training camp instead. Or classical violin. It matters not ...

Advancement in any field of endeavor leads very quickly into territory where an increasingly large fraction of the population CANNOT perform. It does nobody any favors to put people who CANNOT perform into a class with those who can. It is a statistical fact that (approximately) half the population is below average. The "below average" folks in whatever field of endeavor will necessarily be excluded from more activities in it than the above average folks. Yes, this is discriminatory. So?

27 posted on 08/19/2015 12:09:21 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: NorthMountain

It’s a dance class, stop being so ignorant of people who do not fit your cookie cutter stereotype.


28 posted on 08/19/2015 12:11:58 PM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: Morgana

I’m just glad to see FReepers rallying around the ADA.


29 posted on 08/19/2015 12:17:31 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: New Perspective; NorthMountain
It's a dance class for KIDS.

Unless this is some fancy dance school that specializes in putting out Prima Ballerinas then I don't see what the problem was in letting the kid in. If it is one of those schools then they should have said to the parents, "this school specializes in training professional dancers and starts with kids at an early age. We are sorry but your kid just does not make the cut" There are kids with and without Trisomy 21 who are not going to make it if that is the case. If that was the case and they had worded it better then there would have been less hurt feelings.

30 posted on 08/19/2015 12:18:51 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: IronJack

Isn’t Mongoloid a Devo song?


31 posted on 08/19/2015 12:22:28 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan ('Zionists crept into my home and stole my shoe' - Headline)
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To: New Perspective
cookie cutter stereotype.

How's that QM going for you?

Yes, it's a dance class.

Some dance classes are for just about anybody. Some of them are for people with real talent for the art of dance, who may well spend the better part of a lifetime practicing and perfecting it. Sane people realize that separating those two groups benefits both.

For decades, dewy-eyed leftists have been regaling American children with the idiotic notions that you can "do ANYTHING you want to" and "be ANYTHING you want to be". Stuff and nonsense! There's a good reason why I'm not an NFL quarterback ... and was never a Pop Warner quarterback either.

32 posted on 08/19/2015 12:25:05 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Morgana; New Perspective
Unless this is some fancy dance school that specializes in putting out Prima Ballerinas

We don't know, since they don't name the place. It's a private institution; in a free country they'd be free to set their own standards for acceptance. Frankly, this whole thing smells like manufactured controversy to me.

Oh, yeah: The "Americans with Disabilities Act" was and is a gross violation of the Constitution, and an outrageous power grab by an utterly out-of-control Congress and federal bureaucracy.

33 posted on 08/19/2015 12:29:56 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Kolokotronis

I have a niece who has Downs and is a delight and, yes, their inclusion inside the family and to develop friends/neighborhood activities is a blessing and essential, and can create greater virtue in people who have contact with these special needs children, as well as benefit the Down’s child.

That said-—all “Prussian “school” systems are a dehumanization system for “group think” and destroys individuality and thinking “outside the box”. It is no place for ANY child ever, especially a Down’s child because the environment is made up of many immature children and too few adult role models.

Today’s schools are babysitting places—since John Dewey—that is why it was possible to “mainstream” your child. True education is self-directed and can never be done in an indoctrination center which removed Classical Education and is nothing but a system of mass conformity-—to the lowest common denominator.

Telling others that there is radical egalitarianism-—that ALL children have to be “treated” exactly the same, destroys individuality and critical thinking skills and Excellence and Virtue-— and habituates mediocrity——to the lowest common denominator. To take children who may excel in activities and force them into “group” classes, curtails their fastest growth in the area-—may bore them and make them disinterested. It is why individual “tutors” more closely represent the Natural Family and the child’s Natural design for “learning”, and is always the most effective-—not group anything, unless they are closely matched and few in number, and are always challenged.

Education-—when we had the Age of Reason, and Minds of Newton, Maxwell, Kepler, Galileo, etc-—was geared to the individual and to their interest and to their individual abilities. To force employers/teachers to “take” and “train” everyone or anybody is fascism and unconstitutional——it destroys freedom and Free Choice which is crucial to our system of government and Excellence. “Special Needs” children are just that-—not everyone is trained or equipped to create the optimal learning environment for them, nor can they compete at the higher levels that elite training demands.

Putting children in situations where there is constant distraction destroys reflection and integration of the brain. Down’s children tend always to create distractions within serious discussions since it is beyond their comprehension. That distraction is welcomed and appreciated outside of the classroom but shouldn’t be tolerated when the optimal training and habituations are needed.

It is the same, if you were homeschooling....there is a time when you need the baby to sleep and be quiet when working with your 10 year old and that quiet time and “one on one” is essential for true learning and forming true self-esteem and individualism in ALL children. I have seen many children damaged and marriages ruined because of the “special” attention only given to Down’s children. All children need special time and quiet space so they can reflect and truly become educated. All children have special needs——and to erase those of the genius—by holding them back to a lower standard and slower learning pace by “group think programming”, is not doing them a favor at all. I think it is extremely evil. There is a reason why most of our brilliant ancestors never stepped foot in the ‘Prussian” atheist system which created the Hitler Youth mindset and people who believe “snow is black” and Vice is Virtue like many of our young adults today.


34 posted on 08/19/2015 12:43:47 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

That wasn’t our family experience at all.


35 posted on 08/19/2015 12:58:47 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: NorthMountain; New Perspective

“We don’t know, since they don’t name the place. It’s a private institution; in a free country they’d be free to set their own standards for acceptance. Frankly, this whole thing smells like manufactured controversy to me.”

Kinda like a Christian Baker who was a “private institution” who refused service to someone???? YET and here is the YET their names were named, they were drug in the court system, they were bullied and threatened by a certain, co called minority group that is NOT disabled.

The point of this article is that this child was not allowed into the school yet the media does not cover it because she is Down Syndrome. When the local station does cover it they do not tell you the dance company.

Had this child be denied because she was LGBT or whatever, we would know the name of the dance company and all involved.


36 posted on 08/19/2015 1:47:42 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana
Kinda like a Christian Baker who was a “private institution” who refused service to someone????

As I recall, most folks on this forum supported the baker.

they were bullied and threatened by a certain, co called minority group that is NOT disabled.

They were bullied, threatened, and sued by militant queers.

the media does not cover it because she is Down Syndrome.

Big Media is loaded with queers and abortionists. Hence they flack for queers ... if they had their way, ALL Down Syndrome kids would be killed in utero. See my comment #12. Their attitude is straight out of Planned Parenthood and the Third Reich.

37 posted on 08/19/2015 1:56:14 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Morgana

Oh, yes ... the sodomites vs. Christian bakers controversy was also contrived. By the sodomites.


38 posted on 08/19/2015 1:57:07 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
A child with Downs Syndrome does not necessarily require any special accommodations.
Other than usually some mild to (some times) sever mental retardation they are perfectly capable of all range of motion as any other kid.
They are generally capable of taking and following instructions and participation in physical play and sports.
The ADA does apply in this case and this child was unreasonably discriminated against.
WHY; because she is different.
Just to make every one aware; no I don't have any Downs Syndrome children, but I have worked with a lot of them.
39 posted on 08/19/2015 1:58:46 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: NorthMountain

The ADA says nothing about being able to keep up; just as a double amputee is not expected to win a marathon, it is stupid to prevent him or her from participating.


40 posted on 08/19/2015 2:10:20 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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