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10 Reasons Why You Do Not Want to Bug Out
The Prepper Journal ^ | 10 Jan 15 | Pat Henry

Posted on 08/17/2015 5:05:14 PM PDT by SkyPilot

The plan seems simple doesn’t it? All you need for the best chance of survival for your family is a well-stocked bug out bag, a keen attention to your surroundings and careful monitoring of what is happening in the news. With these bases covered you will be a very informed prepper and will be able to get the jump on all of the clueless sheeple if something bad happens. You will load your family up with your bags and hike off into the sunset way ahead of the approaching death and destruction. You have a plan to bug out.

It sounds perfect, but in this article I am going to try and convince you how that might not be the best and first option you should consider. There are many reasons and situations I can think of why you do not want to bug out from your home. You may be asking yourself, how can I even say those words on a prepper blog such as this without getting struck by lightning? It’s true that hunkering down is not the option that gets the most press, but in my opinion during most (but not all) scenarios, it is the better choice. That is unless you are a combat trained Navy Seal. If you are like me, just an average guy with a family and a giant subterranean monster unleashed by nuclear experiments is not headed your way, you might want to stay put. Here are a few reasons why:

You live where your stuff is.

I’ll be the first to admit that a lot of these reasons are going to seem incredibly simple and obvious, but I think sometimes that is the best way to approach a problem. As a prepper you have probably started collecting some supplies to help you get through short and long term emergencies. Some of you have stored a TON of supplies because you have been doing this for a long time or else you are independently wealthy and you just blew up the Black Friday sales.

Even if you only have a week’s worth of food and water, that is nothing to sneeze at. Everything you have is stored probably in nicely organized bins for easy retrieval. You don’t have to carry it and the supplies aren’t subject to the elements. Leaving your home will make you potentially have to leave most, or all of your survival supplies at home. You could put them all in your best bug out vehicle, the diesel Ford F-250 with the trailer, right? Sure you could, but are you sure that truck will always be in your possession? It’s just better to stay at your home base because there are tons of advantages like… I’ll be the first to admit that a lot of these reasons are going to seem incredibly simple and obvious, but I think sometimes that is the best way to approach a problem. As a prepper you have probably started collecting some supplies to help you get through short and long term emergencies. Some of you have stored a TON of supplies because you have been doing this for a long time or else you are independently wealthy and you just blew up the Black Friday sales.

Even if you only have a week’s worth of food and water, that is nothing to sneeze at. Everything you have is stored probably in nicely organized bins for easy retrieval. You don’t have to carry it and the supplies aren’t subject to the elements. Leaving your home will make you potentially have to leave most, or all of your survival supplies at home. You could put them all in your best bug out vehicle, the diesel Ford F-250 with the trailer, right? Sure you could, but are you sure that truck will always be in your possession? It’s just better to stay at your home base because there are tons of advantages like…

Even your kitchen floor is more comfortable than sleeping in the woods

Yes, I know that some people sleep perfectly well in the woods and I can too, once I am exhausted from hiking all day. Honestly, you would have to agree that your old lumpy Serta Posturpedic mattress would be preferable to sleeping in the woods or an abandoned building or even a hammock. Why is that important?

Getting plenty of good sleep has a huge impact on our health. It not only affects your moods, but alertness and even immune system. In a disaster you will be stressed in ways you haven’t even considered. You may be working like a dog and having a comfortable and relatively safe place to rest your head, even if that is the living room floor will be an advantage that the people who think they can just bug out into the woods won’t have.

Built in Community whether you know it or not

In times of crisis, you can almost guarantee that communities will band together in some ways. You probably don’t consider your small neighborhood or dead end street a community but let some disaster happen and you will see humans come together for support, safety and to help each-other out. Being around even just a few neighbors who know you can give you advantages if you need assistance for things like a neighborhood security plan.

Even neighbors you don’t get along with will probably overcome grudges if the disaster is severe enough. Of course there is the potential that your neighbors could turn on you for being the lone prepper but I think in most cases, things won’t go Mad Max for a little while. If it does you will have to adjust, but I believe that most people would benefit by banding with their neighbors for support. You could have an opportunity for leadership here or compassion by helping out others who haven’t prepared. It is much better to strive for this kind of relationship with people than head out the door and face the world with only what is on your back.

Being Cold Sucks and it can kill you

I bet that most of you like to keep the thermostat somewhere in the upper 60’s to low 70’s during the winter. There might be some play in that range, but there are no thermostats outside. Whatever the temperature is outdoors is what you are going to be living with. Can you start a fire or wear warm layers to regulate your body temperature? Of course, but the last place I want to be on a cold winter night is huddled up in my sleeping bag under a tarp even if I did have a nice roasting fire beside me.

There are some situations where you wouldn’t be able to start a fire. Maybe if it was raining and you couldn’t find any dry wood or tinder, or there were people that didn’t look so friendly following you. Staying in your home, even without power can give you advantages of shelter that you won’t easily find outdoors. You can seal off rooms and even your body heat will generate a little warmth. You can black out your curtains with heavy gauge plastic sheeting and even the heat from a lantern or a couple of candles can put out an amazing amount of heat.

You may put yourself in a worse situation

The problem with most bug out plans are that you don’t have a destination. Where are you bugging out to? Do you think the National Forest is going to be reserved solely for you and your family? Do you think you will just set up a tent and start hunting for small game? In a large regional disaster, there could be millions of people leaving the cities. The concept is called the Golden Horde and they will be competing with you for natural resources. With even a few dozen hunters in the same area game will be depleted in days if not sooner. Then you will be stuck near a bunch of other hungry people who blame you for catching the last squirrel.

Being on the road makes you an easier target

One of the advantages of staying put at home is the home field or defenders advantage. When you go out, you do not know what you are walking or driving into. The best you can do is recon very deliberately which will only slow you down more. By staying put in your home, you can set up a neighborhood watch with your fellow neighbors and monitor who is coming in. This gives you the opportunity to set up defensive positions and plans that anyone walking in with thoughts of taking advantage of you, won’t be aware of.

If nobody knows you, you are a stranger

Have you ever been walking your dog and seen someone strange walking through your neighborhood? This was someone you didn’t know so obviously they fell under suspicion. Had they been one of your neighbors kids you would have recognized them, but this new person stuck out. That is what you will be faced with if you leave your home and go wandering through other towns and cities. In your home neighborhood you will be dealing with known people that you can grow a deeper relationship with. There is a built-in level of trust because they have lived near you for years. If you start walking into a strange town with your bug out bags and AR-15 slung over your bulletproof vest, you may not like the attention you receive.

Gear is heavy and a lot of gear is heavier.

Speaking of walking around in your bulletproof vest and gear, how many of you have walked for 3 days with your bug out bag? OK, now add a full complement of bullets and anything else you think you might need to defend yourself. It adds up quickly even when you try to reduce the weight of your bug out bag as much as possible. These weren’t meant to live for a long time out of. Your food will run out, possibly your ammo and that will help you with the weight, but in a disaster where you are walking out the door in full combat gear, do you think Walmart will be open when you run out of something?

In a grid down you won’t get to call AAA

Maybe you are one of the lucky ones that have a place to go up in the mountains. If you don’t get out before everyone else starts leaving, you could be stuck on the road. What if your old bug out vehicle breaks down? All those supplies you stored in the back of that trailer are either going to feed a lot of other people on the highway or you will most likely die defending them. If you aren’t already living at your retreat before the disaster happens, you will have to be incredibly fast to avoid getting stranded. Let’s say you are ready to go, do you know when you would actually leave? Do you know when the S has actually HTF and it’s time to leave or will you debate leaving with your wife and mother for two days because they think it will all blow over soon?

If you get hurt you want to be near a secure shelter not under a tarp

I have a decent first aid supply kit. I don’t have IV’s and a ton of medicine but I can take care of garden variety injuries pretty well. Imagine you somehow break your leg after the grid is down. Would you rather drag yourself into the house, or be stuck in the woods for weeks unable to move? Most hospitals don’t stick their patients out in the back yard for a reason so you will convalesce better with a good roof over your head that is hopefully providing some climate protections. If nothing else, it will be a relatively clean and safe place to get better that beats lying under a log.

So what does staying home mean?

I will write a post about reasons why you may have to bug out later, but staying home doesn’t guarantee you will be safe and secure either. I think each situation has to be taken into consideration as to what is the better option for you and your family. Naturally if there is a fire heading your way staying at home is stupid. It is something to think about that and that may help you begin to form different plans for different scenarios. What are your plans?


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KEYWORDS: bugout; disaster; prepping; shtf; survival
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To: TexasTransplant
we beat feet, my friends that ended up there were forever changed.

Can you expand on that a bit?

141 posted on 08/18/2015 9:14:38 AM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Marcella; Old Sarge; JRandomFreeper; SkyPilot; All
"So, the main question is, present mob bad guys wouldn't get here, but would the upscale people here turn into a type of inner city mob bad guys and attack their upscale neighbor(s) when they realize the neighbor(s) isn't/aren't dying like they are?"

You know my answer to your question:
Quark: "Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes."
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)" (1998)
142 posted on 08/18/2015 9:17:09 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: upchuck

I used to feel safe and comfortable here but in the past 5 years, the hoards have found this area. I never wanted to move but that’s what I’ve been contemplating this summer. These are normal times and middle class to wealthy white people (not PC but fact) are blatantly trespassing daily so just wait until hit the fan times.


143 posted on 08/18/2015 9:17:56 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Marcella

If they have kids, and you have food and they don’t, I doubt they’d hesitate. Income doesn’t matter. There is a king and a despot in every crowd.


144 posted on 08/18/2015 9:23:30 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: bgill

I bugged out about 6 months ago when I retired. Now I am at the end of a 2 mile dead end road with just a very few neighbors, all self reliant, have a good well and plentiful game. no easy way in except for the road. The down side is I left Texas but Alabama is a good state to live in.


145 posted on 08/18/2015 9:24:24 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: bgill

Our house is a split level on a hill. The garage is built into the side of the hill on the lower level. Stays cool year round.


146 posted on 08/18/2015 9:24:40 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (NSA: The only government agency that really listens.)
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To: SkyPilot

This writer apparently doesn’t have the slightest notion of what is likely to come down.

First, it all depends on where you are.

If you are in a major metro area, especially with a shipping port, nuclear and/or biological attack is becoming increasingly likely, thus getting out is job one.

If you are in a deep suburban/semi-rural area, the zombies escaping the city are your threat, in which case site security and camouflage are/should be your goals.

In either case, please recognize that the “authorities” will be working against your best interests, and in favor of any and all zombies.

If none of this makes any sense to you, then you just might be one of the potential zombies.
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147 posted on 08/18/2015 9:30:21 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Marcella; Kartographer
So, the main question is, present mob bad guys wouldn't get here, but would the upscale people here turn into a type of inner city mob bad guys and attack their upscale neighbor(s) when they realize the neighbor(s) isn't/aren't dying like they are? I sit in this fancy house in this fancy area and wonder how secure it is among it's fancy neighbors. This being Texas, I'm sure they all have guns. Would they use them on me and other fancy neighbors to stay alive?

Dear heart, fear and desperation can make people do bizarre and inhuman things.

You never know if, when SHTF, that beta-male cashier at Home Depot would morph into The Governor from "The Walking Dead".

You never know if, when SHTF, that sweet young girl who sings alto with the choir at the Antioch Full Gospel Fellowship Assembly will turn out to be a Ladies Auxiliary of the Bloods.

And if that's not enough to convince, the first dozen pages of Selco's blog will instruct as well.

148 posted on 08/18/2015 9:36:58 AM PDT by Old Sarge (I prep because DHS and FEMA told me it was a good idea...)
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To: SkyPilot

To siphon gas from modern cars, you need a much smaller hose than you probably are accustomed to.

Another thing about gas:

If you are using the new-fangled “spill-proof” plastic jugs, you must store them with the spout above the jug, not inside of it.

If the spout is inside, and the temp rises much, the pressure will force the gas slowly up and out of the lid of the jug, until it is down to the level of the lower tip of the spout.
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149 posted on 08/18/2015 9:42:16 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Yes and she’s not fat. Helluva watchdog. :-)


150 posted on 08/18/2015 9:56:06 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: painter

Key Largo area. I’m just a coastal cruiser, TX to FL, but I want to go up the E coast, when I’m ready to make the return shortcut NY-Bermuda-Bahamas-FL but I’m not quite ready yet. Maybe next year (I say every year)


151 posted on 08/18/2015 10:00:21 AM PDT by GoneSalt (+NooB+"I STAND WITH DONALD TRUMP-HE'S TERRIFIC-HE'S BRASH-HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH"~TED CRUZ~)
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To: GoneSalt

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>> “If your home is your survival platform is a sailboat, bugging out is just going cruising.” <<

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Until the Coast Guard decides otherwise.


152 posted on 08/18/2015 11:34:40 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yeah, getting out is the rub. The situation is already so police intense you can get boarded three times going to deep water. So if the situation deteriorated, you have to get out early. Sailboats tend to not reflect radar well at long distance’s, is a factor. Use of a GPS logs your data into the system; another reason to embrace lo tech. The smuggler’s trick is, wait for weather that’s so ungodly that no sane man would be out in it, and split then, all the official agencies will have other fish to fry. I’ve used a sailboat for a seven ton surfboard...it’s fun ;) singing at the top of your lungs with lightning cracking around you, thinking “well if I’m not shxttxng myself now, I guess I never will” ;) Been there!

Since I have had a goal to go up the east coast, I’ve also meditating on a kicker and sailing as far north as I can before pointing for Bermuda. According to the charts there is a lot of unoccupied land up there. I’d like to eyeball it. If there is a hot springs anywhere to be found, I might have ideas.


153 posted on 08/18/2015 12:04:12 PM PDT by GoneSalt (+NooB+"I STAND WITH DONALD TRUMP-HE'S TERRIFIC-HE'S BRASH-HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH"~TED CRUZ~)
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To: Marcella

That sounds similar to the place my inlaws have in South Carolina for getaways. They’re planning to retire down there, and if they asked me the same question, I would tell them to assume all people will turn feral when the SHTF, even upscale ones.

They’d be prepared, though. They are both excellent with guns. When my FIL is out of town, my MIL has told us-—”Anyone who opens that door during the night better yell “Mom”, because she sleeps with her gun nearby and she will use it.


154 posted on 08/18/2015 12:30:30 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: Organic Panic
I am an avid back packer and love bugging out for leisure.

Depends a lot on the weather.

155 posted on 08/18/2015 12:37:10 PM PDT by archy
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To: Organic Panic
For some realistic advice check out Ferfal’s blog, Alpharubican, and (his name escapes me) a blog written by a Bosnia who survived in that war.

Right off the top of my head, I think his name was Stefan. His initial thoughts on what that year of change in Bosnia was like can be seen here.

The AlphaRubicon site is spelled just a bit differently, and I'd add JW Rawles Survival Blog to your reccomendations.

156 posted on 08/18/2015 12:45:33 PM PDT by archy
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To: SkyPilot
I think the proverbial "bugging out" is totally situational.

I don't plan to be anywhere East of the Mississippi, so I don't have much personal concern about Florida's weather.

On the other hand, we do get a good bit of snow in NE Wyoming, which I pretty much figure to endure the same as most of my neighbors and three generations of those who settled here before us did; my granddad's Homestead Act tract of which I'm now the caretaker, chief cook and bottlewasher, was granted to grandda by President Coolidge in 1924, and things are certainly not as drastic for us now as they were in his day. Indeed, there are houses in our county with inward-opening doors on the second floor; the dry powder snoow can drift a bit out this way.

On the other hand, some other things I'd be a lot less likely to hang around for.


157 posted on 08/18/2015 12:53:33 PM PDT by archy
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To: SkyPilot

I’m within walking distance, just up the hill from one of the “shelters”. Even though I’ve been stocking food etc. I would go there. Then when and if they ran out of provisions I’d return to my home and bug in. Sounds selfish but it would be a matter of survival IMO.

Where I live can be “sealed” up pretty quickly. Greatest issue would be heat in winter.


158 posted on 08/18/2015 1:09:44 PM PDT by caww
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To: TADSLOS; Kartographer

Exactly why I have a bug back pack in my car...inflatable and life jackets as well as water to cross water...seems silly but I am happy to have it and supplies are there to bug in!

Pets depend on me too...although dog is likely to be with me. I have his pack and life jacket too.

Thanks to this thread I realized if the causeway was closed I needed both a bug out and a bug back bag. Hope I never need the bug out ones!


159 posted on 08/18/2015 1:18:35 PM PDT by 3D-JOY (Time to donate. Please don't ignore it! Monthly is best and easiest!)
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To: SkyPilot; Georgia Girl 2; Kartographer; Marcella

I kinda have no choice but to sit tight.


160 posted on 08/18/2015 1:21:52 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Dear Jeb Bush..... Trump upped his game. Up yours!.... Love, Laz.)
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