Posted on 08/13/2015 9:59:41 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
4 Simple Questions .....
1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes. So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time ?
2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 and Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, Right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya, East Africa".
This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet Exist ?
Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_%28http:/en.wikipedia..org/wiki/Kenya%29
3. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital".
This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively.
The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
( kapiolani.org )
Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media?
4. Perhaps a clue comes from Obama's book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I'm not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama's "birth certificate" says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when Obama was born. That should have put his father's date of birth approximately 1936 - Now we need a non-revised history book-one that hasn't been altered to satisfy the author's goals-to verify that WW II was basically between 1939 and
1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in Wars? Even in the latest stages of WW II his father wouldn't have been more than 9 years old. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes ?
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"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens.
“Of course you know Abercrombie found Obama’s original LFBC. He had vowed to do so, had he not?”
No he didn’t in fact he specifically said he would not do anything he legally was not able to do. Governors can not even look at someone’s birth certificate much less release them on their. Abercrombie said he would not ask Obama to release the certificate.
“Asked if one option is to ask Obama to waive his privacy rights so that a copy of his actual birth certificate can be released publicly, Abercrombie cut off a reporter’s question.
“No, no, no - it’s not up to the president,” he said. “It has nothing to do with the president. It has to do with the people of Hawaii who love him, people who love his mom and dad. It has to do with respect the office of the president is entitled to. And it has to do with respect that every single person’s mother and father are entitled to.”
Pressed on whether he might unilaterally release a copy of Obama’s actual birth certificate, Abercrombie made clear that he is waiting for his cabinet officials to give him a report on what he can legally do before proceeding.
“Obviously, I’m going to do what is legally possible,” the governor said.
http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/27/governor-vows-to-end-birther-controversy/
Well, you see, IF a person is a natural born citizen then no other country should have jurisdiction over said citizen as to a thing such as custody.
The ex-husband was never a US citizen, apparently is not a citizen of Monaco, but does reside there.
So, a judge in Monaco can decide to award custody of two US children, who are not dual citizens of Monaco, to the father who also does not hold Monaco citizenship? And a US judge upholds the ruling? Then sends the children off to Monaco. Two minor citizens of the US, born here to a US citizen, are just packed off like that!
So, since EVERYONE acknowledges that the restriction of the requirement to be a natural-born Citizen was inserted in the Constitution as a way to guard against foreign governments intrigue, it would seem that if ONE non-US citizen parent can, through a foreign court, obtain custody away from his US citizen wife, and get custody of his US citizen children, then such a parental configuration leaves a child vulnerable to the mercies OF A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT, and the children’s own government, United States of America, will not intervene or interfere. No, far from interfering, a US court basically deports those children.
In the post I did, I asked what would have happened had obama’s daddy pulled such a stunt - would obama have been able to come on back to the US and be declared a natural-born Citizen?
The original jurisdiction court in Georgia was the Administrative Law Court and the Judge, Michael Mahili was an Administrative Law Judge. Four different eligibility challenges were combined (Farrar, Powell, Swensson and Weldon v Obama) and the plaintiffs requested that Mahili hold “a trial on the merits” rather than issuing a default judgement when Obama’s attorney, Michael Jablonski refused to participate in the trial. Jablonski claimed Judge Mahili had no jurisdiction under Georgia law.
The trial was held and Mahili ruled, in part, “For the purposes of this analysis, the Court considered that Barack Obama was born in the United States. Therefore, as discussed in Ankeny, he became a citizen at birth and is a natural born citizen. Accordingly, President Barack Obama is eligible as a candidate for the presidential primary under O.C.G.A. under Section 21-2-5(b).”
Georgia’s statutes made Mahili’s ruling advisory for the Georgia Secretary of State, Brian Kemp.
Kemp accepted Mahili’s ruling and approved Obama for the Georgia ballot.
The plaintiffs appealed Secretary Kemp’s decision to the Georgia Fulton County Superior Court (state appellate court) which upheld the Kemp decision. The plaintiffs then appealed to the Georgia Supreme Court for an emergency injunction to stop Kemp from putting Obama’s name on the Georgia ballot. It was denied. The plaintiffs also appealed the Superior Court’s ruling but the appeal was denied.
Finally the plaintiffs appealed to the Supreme Court of the United States, first for a Stay of placing Obama’s name on the Georga ballot from Justice Clarence Thomas (the jurisdictional Supreme Court Justice for injunctions and stays from Georgia), it was denied and then they submitted a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari (please hear our appeal) which was denied by the Court.
What would have happened if the father was a U.S. citizen residing in Monico? Would the Monico court have acted in the same way?
Whether Abercrombie found it or not four years ago is completely and totally irrelevant. Either it is there TODAY or it isn’t and the only way to know for sure is via a judge’s court order or a congressional subpoena.
In 2011 Fox News Channel said that it was stored in the Registrar’s office safe:
“Obama Birth Certificate Moved To A More Secure Location Months Ago:”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-moved-secure-location-months-ago/
Are there any lenghts the two of you WON’T go to to prove you are NOT conservatives? Let’s look at how a real conservative handles this issue.
‘Governor of Hawaii Can’t Find Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate?
January 21, 2011
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: I’ve been sitting on this story all week, purposely, just to see where it would go. And it has grown. This governor out in Hawaii, Neil Abercrombie, a well-known socialist, by the way, longtime member of Congress, now the governor of Hawaii, really stepped in it earlier, well, I think it was not even this week, it was last week. The governor, Neil Abercrombie, some time ago said, (paraphrasing) “Look, I was there when Obama was born in Hawaii. That birth certificate, it exists. Everybody knows it. I was there when that kid was born.” Turns out he wasn’t there, and he admitted he wasn’t there. He was there in spirit. He was trying to say he’s that certain. See, he thinks that Obama ought to just get this off the table. Abercrombie is worried that this birth certificate thing is going to be a lingering problem heading into 2012. So Abercrombie, big friend of Obama, tried to step in there and head this off at the pass. It turns out he can’t find the birth certificate, the governor of Hawaii cannot find it. It’s just a notation that somebody wrote down.
This has now made its way to the UK Daily Mail: “Hawaii Governor Claims Record of Obama’s Birth ‘Exists in Archives’ but Can’t Produce the Vital Document.” That’s the headline. The story originated at World Net Daily in this country earlier, and of course if it originates anywhere outside the mainstream press, the mainstream press will not acknowledge it. “Pressure was mounting on Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie today amid increasing confusion over whether President Obama was born there.” This is the UK Daily Mail. “Abercrombie said on Tuesday that an investigation had unearthed papers proving Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. He told Honolulu’s Star-Advertiser: ‘It actually exists in the archives, written down,’ he said. But it became apparent that what had been discovered was an unspecified listing or notation of Obama’s birth that someone had made in the state archives and not a birth certificate. And in the same interview Abercrombie suggested that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health. He said efforts were still being made to track down definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii.”
Remember, he started out, the whole reason for doing this was to firmly prove it and establish and get it off the table so it wasn’t an election issue for 2012. And he’s done the exact opposite now. I mean how many of us could get away with saying, “Yeah, there’s a little notation somewhere there in the archives. We can’t find the birth certificate. Oh, well, welcome to America, Mr. Limbaugh.” Do you think if this was me and they were trying to prove that I wasn’t an American and I insisted that I was, but I couldn’t produce a birth certificate or wouldn’t, and yet the governor of Missouri says, “Oh, yeah, there’s a little notification, somebody wrote down Limbaugh was born here.” Do you think that would fly? No, it wouldn’t be, “Let him back in the country.” It would be, “Get him out of the country. This guy’s been an infiltrator since he was two,” is what they would say about me, claiming that my original country of origin was China.’
From Rush’s January 21, 2011 archive.
Because you and the other obots are so dense, here is a reminder. Abercrombie’s original purpose was to take the controversy over Obama’s birth off the table, so it would not hamper O’s ‘12 reelection bid. Instead, Abercrombie threw gasoline on the fire.
But you two just go right along using FR to spread pro-Obama propaganda. That’s what the site was set up for, after all.
You have to take that tack bc you lack the brain power to determine whether Abercrombie actually located the LFBC or not.
But wouldn’t be great if, say, Congressman Trey Gowdy congressional subpoenaed the original, vault edition, hard copy birth certificate like he did for Hillary Clinton’s servers and Hawaii was unable to produce it and they had to explain that to the nation, under oath, before an investigative committee of the House of Representatives?
I could see a Bill of Impeachment being drafted shortly thereafter!
AH - I must correct myself it seems. It was not a judge in Monaco, but rather a California judge ( so pretty much a foreign judge IMO)who made the initial ruling. I had heard the thing wrong, and later searched out older accounts which spell it out in better detail. However, the thing is not dissimilar in the sense that a judge ruled to send US citizen children out of their home country, to live with a foreign citizen father in a country where none of them are citizens.
The practice of minor US citizens being sent out of the county in that way is profoundly disturbing. It isn’t as though their mother is dead, or in jail or a broke-ass who mistreats the kids. AND it speaks to the vulnerability of children in these situations where one parent is non-US citizen.
Wouldn’t it be great if the Boss finally pulled the plug on FR’s biggest Obama shills?
Lots of money in Monaco, home of most super yachts.
Certainly that wasn't the official designation at the time. It wasn't what would have been reported in the official statistics, but there was some leeway in what a birth certificate might say.
Especially in Hawaii, where "Chinese," "Japanese," "Korean," "Filipino," "Puerto Rican," and "Portuguese" were all "racial" classifications used at one time or another.
The document could still be a fake, but giving the father's race as "African" doesn't prove that it's fake.
If the father had been a US citizen, he would have gone through the US courts I believe - I have updated my post BTW. Answered your question also.
I wonder what sort of “protections” those children have while over there in this situation. And if Daddy simply decides to move on off to yet a different country with the kids - well, what would happen? A lot of grey areas when a foreigner and a US citizen have custody issues.
I disagree, I think you should be allowed to continue to post here at Free Republic despite the lunacy of your meager “contributions.”
The unwitting dupe birtherbots have always been extremely helpful to Barack Obama’s election and reelection efforts.
Saul Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals says that ridicule is a potent political weapon and who has Obama ridiculed more than birtherbots.
Said the pro-government, pro-permanent political class obot shill.
Btw, how much $ do you figure you and the other obots cost the site per anum? Conservatives come to FR to converse with fellow conservatives. Instead we are faced with a constant onslaught of pro-Obama propaganda. Do you not see how that could blunt conservatives’ eagerness to pay $ to maintain the obot onslaught?
Pathetic.
Birtherbot-dupes have lost 226 eligibility lawsuits in a row. What is more demoralizing to conservatives, constantly seeing Obama win frivolous lawsuits and then being subjected to him laughing in our faces or going after him over legitimate issues of his failed goverance?
What you perceive as “pro-Obama” is nothing more than fellow conservatives trying to save you from yourself but there are none so blind as those who will not see.
You, a fellow conservative?
Even Stalin never dreamed up a lie so big.
Btw, you are the one who constantly, relentlessly, again and again, over and over, hundreds if not thousands of times rub conservatives’ noses in the fact that leftist courts have ruled against holding Obama responsible hundreds of times. With this post you openly admit why you do it: to demoralize conservatives.
Yes, that is really helping the site. That is just what it was set up for—to demoralize conservatives.
You internationalists always make me laugh. Always depending on foreign sources
You cite to the UK Daily Mail. It says this
“And in the same interview Abercrombie suggested that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.”
Here is the Honolulu Star-Advertiser interview your foreign newspaper is citing:
No mention of the BC not existing at the DOH.
If you are incapable of reading the Rush transcript I posted then you are beyond help.
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