Ann Counter: Ted Cruz Not Natural Born Citizen [Team Trump!]

Twitter | August 6, 2015 | Ann Coulter

[South40]

Former Chistie/Romney gal now on board with the former Democrat/Independent/whatever will make me the most money post primary candidate.

Yup.

[Slambat]

No, I don’t think Yoda is on Trumps payroll.
“hypocrisy”?

Ok fair enough. I’ll label you as obstinate. You’ll probably take that as an insult too.

[tumblindice]

“Just when you think Ann has her head on straight again.”

Exactly. It’s hard to understand how someone that skinny can keep stepping in ****. She must have big feet.
Her latest book is good, but she keeps doing gunpowder straws and shooting off her mouth. Ann—stop removing all doubt!

[Tau Food]

This isn't the first time that I've disagreed with her.

Ted Cruz - 2016

[South40]

Trump hasn’t denied it, noob.

Not only has liberal Trump not dened it speaking to his favorite president, he has admitted it.

[CPT Clay]

Ann, hillary and barry are the enemy, not Cruz

[b4its2late]

Sure....

natural born Citizens: Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz

Yes Ted Cruz Is Eligible To Be President

[Kartographer]

Those that buy can most suredly be brought.

[b4its2late]

Oh, and if you didn't see this one posted by Jim, here it is:

Editorial: Ted Cruz and the ‘birther’ issue

Tell Jim that Coulter (who I used to like) is right....

[cripplecreek]

I see that Ted Cruz got like 5 standing ovations during his Red State speech today.

[exit82]

Here’s Ted Cruz at Redstate this morning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-788IyQ4uYM

41 minutes

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My memory is that Franklin was born in France.

Franklin was born in Boston. He represented the US in France during the Revolution.

Hamilton had been born outside the US on the island of St. Kitts. I suppose he was constitutionally eligible to be president because he had been serving in the army during the Revolution and was living in the country at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, but he had so many enemies that he wouldn't have been elected.

For what it is worth, I would trust the research of Cruz before I would Coulter.

Ann has been talking about this for some time. But she's been erratic. Sometimes she says she says Cruz is ineligible. Sometimes she says she doesn't know. Once she tweeted that he was eligible. But surely Ted Cruz can't be the judge in this matter. He has a personal interest in the outcome.

[DiogenesLamp]

If Obama can be President...... who can’t?..

This is my position. Obama broke the requirement, so now there is no actual requirement. Any sort of US Citizenship acquired at birth is good enough.

[DiogenesLamp]

His glib assertion that there a two types of citizens, citizens-by-birth and naturalized citizens ignores the fact that there is more than one type of citizen-by-birth; there is also more than one type of 'naturalized' citizen.

Although I agree with where you are going with this, I am going to give you a bit of advice. The management here has little patience for any critique of Cruz's birth status, so I am suggesting you might want to tread very lightly here.

I've known several posters who went where you are going and they can no longer post on this website.

My position on the topic is that I don't care. The Democrats broke the rules, so we don't have to abide by them either.

Ted Cruz is one of my two favorite potential choices, (The Other being Scott Walker) and I don't care if he is technically qualified or not.

As Lincoln Said:

I did understand however, that my oath to preserve the constitution to the best of my ability, imposed upon me the duty of preserving, by every indispensable means, that government -- that nation -- of which that constitution was the organic law. Was it possible to lose the nation, and yet preserve the constitution? By general law life and limb must be protected; yet often a limb must be amputated to save a life; but a life is never wisely given to save a limb. I felt that measures, otherwise unconstitutional, might become lawful, by becoming indispensable to the preservation of the constitution, through the preservation of the nation. Right or wrong, I assumed this ground, and now avow it. I could not feel that, to the best of my ability, I had even tried to preserve the constitution, if, to save slavery, or any minor matter, I should permit the wreck of government, country, and Constitution all together.

[DiogenesLamp]

What defines a “natural-born citizen” and where do you find it. The federalist papers? Blacks Law Dictionary?

The Declaration of Independence. Anyone born prior to the Declaration of Independence was a British Subject, and was thereafter converted to an American Citizen by the action of the Declaration of Independence. (Unless they chose to remain loyal to the British Government, which many did.)

Anyone born after to an American Father was a "natural born citizen."

[DiogenesLamp]

I researched various sources, read the constitution and I've concluded in my own mind that if one parent is a U.S. citizen at the time of the baby's birth, regardless of where the kid was born, they are a U.S. citizen.

You didn't research it enough. Women couldn't transfer citizenship until after the Cable Act in 1922. Prior to that, only the father could transfer citizenship.

[Yosemitest]

I really like Ann Coulter, but she's WRONG !

FACT: Cruz’s father’s Cuban nationality at the time of Cruz’s birth, is irrelevant, according to the law at that time,
just so long as he was a LEGAL Immigrant at the time of Ted Cruz's birth,
AND both of Ted Cruz's parents were legally married to each other.

What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986?

The 14th Amendment IS a part of the U.S. Constitution and states in SECTION 5.
The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
So, under that power to legislate, Congress legislated and the President signed into law:
When ONE parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national,
the US citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child,
with five of the years after the age of 14.

... While there were initially rules regarding what the child must do to retain citizenship,
amendments since 1952 HAVE ELIMINATED THESE REQUIREMENTS.

When Ted Cruz was born, his parents were "IN WEDLOCK".

They married, moved to Calgary, Alberta, and in late 1970 had their first and only child, Rafael Edward Cruz.
Cruz was born on December 22, 1970 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada where his parents, Eleanor Elizabeth Darragh Wilson and Rafael Bienvenido Cruz.

Cruz's mother was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware, in a family of three quarters Irish and one quarter Italian descent.
Eleanor Darragh, mother of Ted Cruz, was raised in Delaware, graduated from a Catholic High School (1952) in the U.S., as well as Rice University (1956),
so clearly she meets the residency requirements.

Source

In 1957, Rafael Bienvenido Cruz (Ted Cruz's father) decided to get out of Cuba by applying to the University of Texas.
Upon being admitted, he adds, he got a four-year student visa at the U.S. Consulate in Havana.

"Since he liked to eat seven days a week, he worked seven days a week, and he paid his way through the University of Texas," Ted Cruz says of his father, "and then ended up getting a job and eventually going on to start a small business and to work towards the American dream."

Only he did that in Canada, where Ted was born.
His father went there after having earlier obtained political asylum in the U.S. when his student visa ran out.
He then got a green card, he says, and married Ted's mother, an American citizen.
The two of them moved to Canada to work in the oil industry.

"I worked in Canada for eight years," Rafael Cruz says. "And while I was in Canada, I became a Canadian citizen."

The elder Cruz says he renounced his Canadian citizenship when he finally became a U.S. citizen in 2005 —
48 years after leaving Cuba.
Why did he take so long to do it?
"I don't know. I guess laziness, or — I don't know," he says.


So there is the law for the time Ted Cruz was born,
AND HOW Ted Cruz's PARENTS fulfilled ALL those requirements of the law that time, for Ted Cruz to be a "Natural Born Citizen".
Ted Cruz did NOT NEED a Court and a Judge to "Nationalize" him.

“Senator Cruz became a U.S. citizen at birth, and he never had to go through a naturalization process after birth to become a U.S. citizen,” said spokeswoman Catherine Frazier.
... The U.S. Constitution allows only a “natural born” American citizen to serve as president.
Most legal scholars who have studied the question agree that includes an American born overseas to an American parent, such as Cruz.

[hosepipe]

Video - https://www.dropbox.com/s/xl8rryik2smv4uc/Cruz1.mp4?dl=0

[DiogenesLamp]

'What defines a “natural-born citizen” and where do you find it. The federalist papers? Blacks Law Dictionary?'

You start with the "Declaration of Independence", which is what created US Citizenship, and you look at the natural law philosophies underpinning it.

I'll give you a hint. Out of all the Natural Law philosophers consulted by the Founders in the lead up to creating the United States, only one of them argues that breaking away from a kingdom and forming an independent Republic is morally correct.

In fact, there is only one natural law philosopher of that era that even mentions the concept of Independence. All other writers of Natural law would have been arrested had they suggested such an idea because every one of them lived in a nation where a King ruled. Writing such a thing would have been regarded by the King as sedition.

Only one natural law philosopher could suggest Independence, because he lived in a nation that did not have a King. It was the only nation in the World without a King. Here's another hint. :)

[DiogenesLamp]

What defines a “natural-born citizen” are the U.S. citizenship laws in effect at the time of your birth.

This is incorrect. The meaning of "natural born citizen" cannot be redefined by congress. They can't make it mean something new.

It's meaning is set in stone, and it means the exact same thing as it did in 1787 when it was made a requirement.

And let me be clear, "natural born citizen" predates the US Constitution because that condition was created by the Declaration of Independence. Anyone born prior to the Declaration of Independence was a British Subject. Those born after, (to an American father) was a "natural born citizen."