Posted on 07/26/2015 7:55:23 PM PDT by Timber Rattler
Last week Microsoft MSFT confirmed every Windows 10 update will mandatory and installed automatically. This was met with a hostile reception from Forbes readers with over 100 comments on my news article voicing their concern. And now some of those fears have been realised…
With just four days left before launch, Windows 10’s policy of automatic updates has run into its first major problem and it is causing many PCs to stop working correctly.
(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...
Apple has been lowballing expectations since 2000 or so...
if they don’t have a huge beat, they usually take a dive, and it does not happen often.
This is the reason why I did not take the risk to buy puts. I left some on the table, but I did not lose anything either.
You need to see Apple as a trade as well as a investment and that is hard for anyone to do.
Happens all the time with other techs, but not so frequently with Apple since 2013..
The picky stuff does not matter..They just did not beat the streets high expectations. Nothing personal.
Apple made their bed regarding this along time ago...let them deal with it..
Just a anecdotal fact,,,
Other techs have got themselves into the same boat.
Cisco was one of them...always beat until one day they did not...took a huge dive and wiped out billions..
Are you forced to use “automatic updates” ..??
Can’t you just change the setting ..??
You need to check Apple history in the past four years. You're out of date. . . But then you said you don't follow it. Apple has been pretty spot on. They are guiding conservative now because of the China situation and really cannot guess what's happening there. No one can.
That’s true about china..
You are correct, I have not followed it in several years, back when I was trading tech...
Today I just look for any sort of unusual chart activity and then do DD on options and news. If it looks like a bouncer I will start a position.
I presently am only 20% in the market...I see nothing but bad...
Short answer: 1. YES, and 2. NO.
If you're a normal individual user (home, small business) using the Home or Home Premium editions of Windows 10, you have no choice -- your computer will have the updates force-fed to it automatically whether you want them or not, and there is nothing you can do to avoid it.
If you spring for the Professional business-class editions, you get a slightly better deal -- you can delay the updates for a little while. But sooner or later your time runs out and they are force-fed to your computer whether you want them or not.
The only Windows 10 users with real options are the high-volume Enterprise customers on large expensive software contracts, who can arrange special deals with Microsoft about if and when the updates are pushed to their computers. The rationale is that large customers generally have custom-written applications that might break due to updates. As though you and I don't have applications that break with updates.
In other words, money talks. You and I are the guinea pigs who "field test" the updates for the Enterprise customers.
I realize that sounds harsh. But that's what it is, and Microsoft's own documentation says it in so many words.
I have heard this complaint uttered for years and many versions and to this day, I still don't understand why someone would avoid updating their OS with the exception of enterprise users who have to update many machines at the same time and with specialized programming.
Sure, I can envision a update that fails, or a application that reacts badly to a security patch, but in all these cases, you fix the application before you let your machine run with a known vulnerability.
I just can't wrap my arms around this anti update sentiment.
Full disclosure: I think that if it was done right, a regular stream of security updates to a widely used consumer OS would be terrific and nothing short of a boon to the user.
Problem is, it can’t be done right within the context of Windows.
Done right, it would not require a reboot except for extreme patches to the inner kernel, as Linux and Unix do. Reboots are disruptive and it is only the poor architecture of Windows that makes them necessary with every update set.
Done right, it would not break things, applications in particular. But Windows forces applications to do things in a way that makes them more fragile.
And so on. I’d love it, if it could be done right. Alas, no such luck.
I note that reboots are far fewer these days. Normally they seem to need access to the registry etc and that requires a restart.
This does not irritate me quite as much as it used to but I am one of those who leaves their computers on and only allows the screen to go dark. The updates are usually installed during down times and it restarts whatever I had running like email clients and such. But that is win 7.
On 8.1, I rarely even know it was updated..
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Just received a notice from Kaspersky that their win10 compatible upgrade is ready for download.
That is one concern I had because my subscription still has a year and a half to run...they say no problemo.....
Okay .. first they took away my XP - and now I’m too incompetent to choose if I want to take updates automatically ..???????
How do I get off this disaster train ..??
The traditional answer is "Get a Mac" or "Get Linux". :-)
Personally I'd recommend a Mac over Linux about 70/30 for convenience unless you're a techie type. The mental shift from Windows to Mac isn't nearly as bad as it's hyped to be. The shift from Windows to Linux is likewise not as bad as commonly believed, but it is true that you spend more time dealing with the computer (as a computer) than you would with a Mac.
If you prefer to stick with Windows, my advice is to use Win 7. Win 8 is dead and will fall the rest of the way over soon, and Win 10 is the thing you're trying to avoid.
Since I spend time on all of them every day -- Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, BSD Unix,... I just install updates for all the systems as they arrive and accept the inconvenience as cost of doing business and pleasure.
so you finally will admit YOU are an Apple fanboy? It’s about time... Now I can tell Cortana to fax Siri and tell you so.
Something I came across today regarding the win 10 upgrade for those who are in the cue.
If you keep checking to see if it’s available via a manual update check, you may discover that you will get a number of “failed update notifications for win 10”.
Do not panic and think something is wrong with you computer or the update because it it’s just fine...
What has happened is something akin to opening the freezer door every 5 minutes to see if it’s getting colder! Or the oven .......(you get the picture)
Microsoft has your order in a cue and you will receive it when your number comes up, so to speak. The failure is because it is not yet time.
Carry on....
They are going to push the important security and OS updates, but as far as I know the low priority or optional updates are still optional, to the best of my knowledge.
Just a dumb question but is it not the responsibility of the application writer to keep up with MS, if they are a approved partner or whatever they call it now?
Not a dumb question at all.
The internal structural design of Windows NT which is the foundation of modern Windows started out pretty good (see Dave Cutler, VMS) but was severely compromised almost immediately in the 1990’s by Microsoft’s efforts to place features and cool tricks over stability and security.
Things like making video and other drivers part of the innermost kernel instead of keeping them out in safer zones.
It’s not so much a matter of keeping up with MS as it is abandoning the principles of good software practice, to accommodate the idiosyncrasies of the way Windows is inside.
So, is the W-10 build any better in this regard?
Seems like they are almost trying to PO the enterprise customers.
IIRC, that "live desktop crap never worked"....lol
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