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DONALD TRUMP ENDORSES AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS [DISAPPOINTING, BUT NOT SURPRISING]
Frontpage Mag ^ | 07/26/2015 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 07/26/2015 5:49:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Disappointing, but not surprising.

The depressing reality though that is that most of the Republican field has endorsed amnesty in one form or another. So this isn't much of a surprise. Trump is using his own vocabulary, but he's echoing the same amnesty talking points you could hear from Marco Rubio... or Barack Obama.

During Friday's interview, Trump said the U.S. should take a two-step approach to the 11 million undocumented immigrants currently living in the country.

"Well, the first thing we do is take the bad ones — of which there are, unfortunately, quite a few," said Trump, who owns three New Jersey golf courses and once owned three Atlantic City casinos. "We take the bad ones and get 'em the hell out. We get 'em out."

But he said the country should take a different approach with "the other ones" — i.e., undocumented immigrants who have "done a good job" since arriving in the U.S.

"I'm a very big believer in the merit system," Trump said. "I have to tell you: Some of these people have been here, they've done a good job. You know, in some cases, sadly, they've been living under the shadows. ... If somebody's been outstanding, we try and work something out.

"But before we do anything, we have to secure the border because the border is like having no border," he added.

I'm sure some people will be tempted to cheer this, but compare it to Obama's own amnesty executive order.

These executive actions crack down on illegal immigration at the border, prioritize deporting felons not families, and require certain undocumented immigrants to pass a criminal background check and pay their fair share of taxes as they register to temporarily stay in the U.S. without fear of deportation.

Cracking Down on Illegal Immigration at the Border:  The President’s actions increase the chances that anyone attempting to cross the border illegally will be caught and sent back. Continuing the surge of resources that effectively reduced the number of unaccompanied children crossing the border illegally this summer, the President’s actions will also centralize border security command-and-control to continue to crack down on illegal immigration.

Deporting Felons, Not Families: The President’s actions focus on the deportation of people who threaten national security and public safety. He has directed immigration enforcement to place anyone suspected of terrorism, violent criminals, gang members, and recent border crossers at the top of the deportation priority list.

Deporting the "bad people" first is already an Obama talking point. People may think they can trust Trump, but not Obama or any of the Republicans, but like them, Trump frontloaded rhetoric about enforcement while keeping the amnesty out back.

And "secure the border first" has been the talking point of every Republican amnesty proponent.

Marco Rubio still supports legal status and a slow road to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants, but now says the government must convince Americans the border is secure before taking those steps.

Trump had already indicated support for amnesty earlier, now he's being clearer about it.

This is in line with what CNN’s Chris Moody reported Trump saying during a press conference in Chicago at the end of June. When asked what he would do about the illegal immigrants already residing in the country once the border was secured, Trump replied, “give them a path,” according to Moody.

When The Daily Caller sought clarification at the time from the Trump campaign, a senior adviser replied with a circuitous answer that emphasized that Trump wanted to secure the border and didn’t believe in “amnesty,” but wouldn’t explicitly reject a pathway to legalization.

Nobody likes the A-word, including Rubio and Ryan who spent the better part of a year arguing that legalizing illegal aliens isn't amnesty if they have to pay a fine. Even Obama made that argument.

The next step would be to get Trump to lay out criteria for who gets to stay and how many of them it would apply to, but good luck getting an answer.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New York; US: Texas
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To: central_va

For sure - forgot to mention that. Don’t employ them, don’t feed them and they will make their way south again.


81 posted on 07/26/2015 6:23:12 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: lewislynn

< a href=”http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3309339/posts?page45";>link</a>

Post 34 at this link for Cruz positions on immigration.


82 posted on 07/26/2015 6:23:24 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Red Steel

There’s an air of uncertainty about Trump. It’s hard to tell where he is. I don’t trust him.


83 posted on 07/26/2015 6:24:53 PM PDT by ginadee
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Cruz and Rubio are saying something similar. This is the latest dodge by the amnesty supporters.


84 posted on 07/26/2015 6:25:57 PM PDT by kabar
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

>>I cant believe he would be this stupid. Well when he sees his poll numbers drop like a brick he will<<

He will what? Change his position again, probably. After all, his entire schtick is to figure out what people want to hear and then say it as loud and long as he can. “I’m saying what they want to hear” should be his campaign slogan.

By the way, I can believe he would be this stupid, politically at least. He is a friend of Bill and Hillary, after all.


85 posted on 07/26/2015 6:26:43 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: entropy12

The employment laws are set up to create a hostile environment for aliens to defraud employers and obtain work in the USA illegally. No worky no money go homey. It is called self deportation, or better de incentivize coming in the first place. Nobody enforces the law.....


86 posted on 07/26/2015 6:27:13 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: catnipman

40% of the illegal aliens come here legally and overstay their visas. Securing the border only solves part of the problem. We need a system to track and deport visa overstays.


87 posted on 07/26/2015 6:27:33 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Catsrus

How about attrition thru enforcement?


88 posted on 07/26/2015 6:29:02 PM PDT by kabar
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To: BobL

< a href=”http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3309339/posts?page45";;>link</a>

Post 34 at this link for Cruz positions on immigration.


89 posted on 07/26/2015 6:29:19 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I haven't heard liberal Donald Trump say this. Have you?

"I am unequivocally opposed to amnesty." ~Ted Cruz

His exact words at the 4:27 mark in this video dated May 30, 2015.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL0FFJzqxwg

90 posted on 07/26/2015 6:30:00 PM PDT by South40 (Rafael Edward Cruz 2016!)
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To: conservativejoy

In his book “The America We Deserve” Trump touts single payer

https://books.google.com/books?id=PV6qZU_xev8C&lpg=PP1&dq=The%20America%20We%20Deserve&pg=PT258#v=onepage&q&f=false


91 posted on 07/26/2015 6:30:02 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: editor-surveyor

>>Trump is not our candidate. He will be our nemesis.<<

You’re right, he won’t be the GOP nominee. However, he’s showing the other candidates just how angry the country is about certain key issues and that will help them in the end. By the way, he’s also demonstrating that a lot of traditional Dem voters are as fed up with the open border policy as we are.

He’s also demonstrated that a lot of Hispanics here legally feel the same. All of this is good. He’s his own nemesis, not ours. The process of his self-destruction began with the POW remark and continues with this one...


92 posted on 07/26/2015 6:30:11 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

I believe Trump is saying nothing differently than any of the other 110 candidates.

None are going to herd every illegal out of the country by train, plane and automobile. They’re just not. Especially those who know no other country but this one.

The Obama invaders should be ripe for shipment back home, but those here prior to Obama are likely going nowhere if they are working and especially tax paying individuals with no record.


93 posted on 07/26/2015 6:30:16 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: ginadee
There’s an air of uncertainty about Trump. It’s hard to tell where he is. I don’t trust him.

That's very odd, since he's about the only one on the stage who speaks in a forthright, straightforward manner. You don't need an interpreter, analysis, political talking pinheads to tell ya what he just said.

94 posted on 07/26/2015 6:30:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BobL

Jindal is a viable candidate. His chances are fairly low, but he is one of third tier folks that have a decent shot at jumping much higher. I really really like him. I hope he goes deep in the race. Conservatism will benefit as a result.


95 posted on 07/26/2015 6:31:45 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: olezip
...the hard working illegals who have established a family and are obeying the laws.

Really? They are all lawbreakers. In addition to entering illegally, they have broken other laws like working illegally, identity theft, tax evasion, lying on employment forms, etc. When you reward something, you get more of it.

96 posted on 07/26/2015 6:31:54 PM PDT by kabar
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To: BobL

>>And JUST WHO is to the right of Trump on Illegal Immigration?<<

Walker for sure, and probably Cruz as well.

Walker still has the best position when he says that all immigration, legal, and treatment of illegals here now, must first consider the impact upon American jobs and wage levels. That is as far right as you’ll get on immigration.


97 posted on 07/26/2015 6:32:53 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: SeekAndFind
It's been done before. Effectively
98 posted on 07/26/2015 6:34:06 PM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: conservativejoy

Nice, I am feeling better about Cruz. I hadn’t heard much from Cruz on Amnesty and Open Borders, so I was starting to worry a bit.


99 posted on 07/26/2015 6:34:52 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: editor-surveyor

“Bye Donald!” ———

LOL!

I am pretty sure you’re one of those who couldn’t cough up “hello”. Fur ball reaction, you know. As I recall.


100 posted on 07/26/2015 6:35:40 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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