DONALD TRUMP ENDORSES AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS [DISAPPOINTING, BUT NOT SURPRISING]

Frontpage Mag ^ | 07/26/2015 | Daniel Greenfield

[SeekAndFind]

Disappointing, but not surprising.

The depressing reality though that is that most of the Republican field has endorsed amnesty in one form or another. So this isn't much of a surprise. Trump is using his own vocabulary, but he's echoing the same amnesty talking points you could hear from Marco Rubio... or Barack Obama.

During Friday's interview, Trump said the U.S. should take a two-step approach to the 11 million undocumented immigrants currently living in the country.

"Well, the first thing we do is take the bad ones — of which there are, unfortunately, quite a few," said Trump, who owns three New Jersey golf courses and once owned three Atlantic City casinos. "We take the bad ones and get 'em the hell out. We get 'em out."

But he said the country should take a different approach with "the other ones" — i.e., undocumented immigrants who have "done a good job" since arriving in the U.S.

"I'm a very big believer in the merit system," Trump said. "I have to tell you: Some of these people have been here, they've done a good job. You know, in some cases, sadly, they've been living under the shadows. ... If somebody's been outstanding, we try and work something out.

"But before we do anything, we have to secure the border because the border is like having no border," he added.

I'm sure some people will be tempted to cheer this, but compare it to Obama's own amnesty executive order.

These executive actions crack down on illegal immigration at the border, prioritize deporting felons not families, and require certain undocumented immigrants to pass a criminal background check and pay their fair share of taxes as they register to temporarily stay in the U.S. without fear of deportation.

Cracking Down on Illegal Immigration at the Border:  The President’s actions increase the chances that anyone attempting to cross the border illegally will be caught and sent back. Continuing the surge of resources that effectively reduced the number of unaccompanied children crossing the border illegally this summer, the President’s actions will also centralize border security command-and-control to continue to crack down on illegal immigration.

Deporting Felons, Not Families: The President’s actions focus on the deportation of people who threaten national security and public safety. He has directed immigration enforcement to place anyone suspected of terrorism, violent criminals, gang members, and recent border crossers at the top of the deportation priority list.

Deporting the "bad people" first is already an Obama talking point. People may think they can trust Trump, but not Obama or any of the Republicans, but like them, Trump frontloaded rhetoric about enforcement while keeping the amnesty out back.

And "secure the border first" has been the talking point of every Republican amnesty proponent.

Marco Rubio still supports legal status and a slow road to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants, but now says the government must convince Americans the border is secure before taking those steps.

Trump had already indicated support for amnesty earlier, now he's being clearer about it.

This is in line with what CNN’s Chris Moody reported Trump saying during a press conference in Chicago at the end of June. When asked what he would do about the illegal immigrants already residing in the country once the border was secured, Trump replied, “give them a path,” according to Moody.

When The Daily Caller sought clarification at the time from the Trump campaign, a senior adviser replied with a circuitous answer that emphasized that Trump wanted to secure the border and didn’t believe in “amnesty,” but wouldn’t explicitly reject a pathway to legalization.

Nobody likes the A-word, including Rubio and Ryan who spent the better part of a year arguing that legalizing illegal aliens isn't amnesty if they have to pay a fine. Even Obama made that argument.

The next step would be to get Trump to lay out criteria for who gets to stay and how many of them it would apply to, but good luck getting an answer.

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Bobby Jindal on immigration:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Bobby_Jindal.htm#Immigration

We need a high walls and wide gate. (Feb 2014)

We’ve got a backwards system: low walls and a narrow gate. (Feb 2014)

A secure border means that border governors certify it. (Feb 2014)

Mexico is effectively exporting its unemployment to us. (Nov 2010)

Enforce existing laws & refocus on high-skill immigrants. (Nov 2010)

As Congressman, Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)

As Congressman, Voted YES on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project. (Jun 2006)

Rated 100% by USBC, indicating a sealed-border stance. (Dec 2006)

Government services in English only. (Mar 2008)

Declare English as the official language of the US. (Feb 2007)

[BobL]

“Ted Cruz?”

I love Cruz...but he also hasn’t mentioned anything beyond securing the border...and he’s angered a bunch of people here regarding H1B’s.

In other words, no one is talking deportations...well, actually Trump is, at least for the bad people, which is a start at least.

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TED CRUZ ON IMMIGRATION:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Ted_Cruz.htm#Immigration

End Obama’s illegal amnesty via Congress’ checks & balances. (Nov 2014)

Defund amnesty; and refuse any nominees until rescinded. (Nov 2014)

No path to citizenship for 1.65 million illegals in Texas. (Oct 2012)

Give police more power to ask about immigration status. (Jun 2012)

Boots on the ground, plus a wall. (Apr 2012)

Triple the size of the Border Patrol. (Mar 2012)

Strengthen border security and increase enforcement. (Jul 2011)

[kabar]

I'm a very big believer in the merit system," Trump said. "I have to tell you: Some of these people have been here, they've done a good job. You know, in some cases, sadly, they've been living under the shadows. ... If somebody's been outstanding, we try and work something out.

Donald is the frontrunner so he must now act like the GOPe. Big mistake. This is amnesty no matter how you spin it.

The correct answer is attrition thru enforcement.

[proust]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3299943/posts

Ted Cruz wants to increase H-1B visas from 65,000 to 325,000 annually

[BobL]

Sorry, I meant viable candidate. But nice to hear that about Jindal those...it does seem to match Trump.

[Kickass Conservative]

He said the same thing days ago.

Cruz already said that the issue of Illegals who are already here will stay on the back burner until a Border Fence is built long before Trump made his Comments.

I guess he had better be disqualified too.
No more Money to Cruz from me. LOL

Build a Wall, then we deal with the issue, that’s reality.

Any other Republicans advocating loading Illegal Invaders into Cattle Cars and sending the Trains South to the Mexican Border? Didn’t think so.

If anyone here thinks that is a possibility, it would seem that Libs aren’t the only ones with Wet Dream issues.

[TBP]

Yes, the ones who have committed crimes (other than being here illegally) go first. But they all need to go.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Build a Wall, then we deal with the issue, that’s reality.

Hmmm... Ted Cruz and Talk Show host Mark Levin are on the same page...

[dragnet2]

Thank you.☺ It's always nice to see honesty here.

[Norseman]

>>Guess I’m not seeing “amnesty” here.<<

That will surprise the “no amnesty” crowd. And it is amnesty, by the way. If you grant an illegal the right to stay, he’s violated the law and gotten away with it. That’s amnesty. No two ways around it.

Now if you’re for some form of amnesty, as Trump and many others are, that’s another matter entirely. But it is amnesty he’s talking, and that fact will come as a surprise to many of his most ardent followers.

And this is going to happen on a lot of other issues as well. Just wait and see.

[Lopeover]

It needs to be a strict merit process. Radical groups like La Raza must go.

[BobL]

Pretty good on Cruz...now he needs to make that a MAJOR ISSUE (as Trump as done), rather than a position paper.

[going hot]

Daniel, Daniel, Daniel.

You were moving right along, being swave and deboner, pontificating, rather eloquently, I might add, then you come out and crap on the carpet in the middle of the living room floor.

What's up with that?

[central_va]

then start looking at what to do with the rest.

They figured out how to get here they can figure out how to go home, I will show them the direction South if they need help with that. Self deportation works, the employers need to be given punitive fines.

[Norseman]

>>That’s a far better - and MORE CLEAR - policy statement than any other candidate.<<

Actually, it’s pretty much the same as every other candidate has said. As for “clear,” how clear has he been when people are now surprised at his position?

[Hostage]

Romney would say anything to get elected. The problem with Romney is he has ZERO credibility. He’s a confirmed liar.

[FlingWingFlyer]

It’s a lie that there are only 11 million illegal aliens in the U.S. People who regurgitate that number all the time really need to knock off the recreational drugs. There are 35 to 50 million of those freeloaders here if there is one.

[dragnet2]

That’s right.

When your borders have been invaded for 30+ years, you have to secure the border #1 priority first.

Like a house fire, ya don’t clean up the smoke and water damage before the flames are out. Ya have to stop the fire from spreading first.

[Norseman]

>>I believe that Trump will secure the border, and stop the leak of criminals, disease carriers, and terrorists into our country.<<

Yes, and you’ll have to take it on belief alone because his track record is all over the place. Or you could choose a candidate with an actual track record as a conservative I suppose....