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When will Jim banish Trump supporters from FR, like he did with Giuliani advocates? [JR @ 305]
one man's opinion...

Posted on 07/25/2015 2:15:15 PM PDT by ken5050

On 4/23/2007, Jim Robinson posted a manifesto, "Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement" (and a knife in the back) . The thread was subtitled, "The only difference in a Liberal Rudy Giuliani and Liberal Hillary Clinton is the fact of which bathrooms they select to use and there are some who are willing to even question that.


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To: ken5050

Thank you, ken5050. You are an honest breath of fresh air.


261 posted on 07/25/2015 6:15:04 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased mindNo excuses ons.)
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To: ken5050

“Preibus is an ass for not banning him from the debates.”

You do realize, don’t you, how fascist that sounds? How GOPe? It’s like suddenly you are a different person than I thought you were. What happened?

By the way, Trump says he is against abortion, that he is pro-life. I believe with all of his children and grandchildren, he has seen the error of his earlier beliefs from years ago. Until he does something to dissuade me of his position, I choose to believe him. I have watched too many other people I have known move from pro-abortion to pro-life positions. It happens all the time and thank goodness for it.


262 posted on 07/25/2015 6:17:20 PM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS!)
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To: flaglady47
You purists...

And there I was, nodding along in agreement with you, until that moment.

263 posted on 07/25/2015 6:17:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: sergeantdave

“You posted this nonsense. Why don’t you hang around and join the
conversation on the thread you created instead of hiding.”

Good point. The OP is a scared, little rabbit.


I think you need to pick up the “eat crow” phone on post # 238


264 posted on 07/25/2015 6:17:56 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased mindNo excuses ons.)
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To: exit82
There are only two men right now that are fighting the DC Cartel—that is Cruz and Trump.

No candidate is perfect, and no candidate is going to be a perfect match to our personal preferences grid.

But America loves a fighter, and I want a fighter, so give me Trump, Cruz or any combination of the two, and I am happy.

There you go....speaking my mind again. You do that often, you know that?

265 posted on 07/25/2015 6:20:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: PAR

““Some have suggested that I should consider a third party run if I am not successful in becoming the Republican nominee. Let me be clear: while there may be some philosophical differences between myself and my fellow Republican contenders, those differences seem insignificant when comparing them to the yawning chasm between the core Republican values we share and those held by Democrats. While I believe I can be more a more effective leader, given my background and experience, than my Republican opponents, I would gladly support any one of them against any Democrat nominee because I firmly believe it is progressive, and in many cases unlawful policies, that are the root of the many significant issues facing our country today.””

Go tell that to your fellow Freepers, many of whom every other day are threatening to go third party. And I believe many of them would actually do it, or, in the alternative, and much worse, just stay home and not vote. Trump is doing a political bluff, and it will make the GOPe have to be careful just how vitriolic they get towards him, and it’s been pretty bad already.


266 posted on 07/25/2015 6:21:58 PM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS!)
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To: flaglady47
The pecksniffians on this Forum really chafe mon cul. Their recommendations helped us lose every election for the past decade.
267 posted on 07/25/2015 6:22:52 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: jetson
Isn’t the whole idea behind Free Republic to freely express all thoughts and ideas.

Ahem...

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268 posted on 07/25/2015 6:25:08 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Moorings

“Speaking of which, I did not hear Trump come out in support of Cruz, when he was getting it from all sides for his efforts to de-fund Obamacare. Who is the bigger man here? Maybe Trump does not want to de-fund Obamacare.”

Trump contributed money to Cruz’s campaign. Know what you are talking about before opening your mouth.


269 posted on 07/25/2015 6:27:28 PM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS!)
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To: Moorings; Amntn
I don't trust someone who had a conversion to conservatism close to running for the republican nomination.

Trump isn't a recent convert to conservatism. Here's Freeper Amntn commenting on Donald Trump’s book, “Time To Get Tough”:

Keep in mind he wrote this in 2011.

Chapter 1: Get Tough. Talks about the current government being weak and incompetent.

Chapter 2: We should have taken control of the oil in the Iraq war and prepaid ourselves, wounded troops and their families, and paid all medical expenses of the wounded.

Chapter 3: Tax China to save American jobs. Don’t allow them to manipulate their currency and keep them from stealing our technology.

Chapter 4: Taxes. Kill the death tax, kill corporate taxes, reduce taxes on capitol gains and dividends, simply the tax code with graduating % of income. Under $30,000 1% with a max being 15% for incomes $1 million and above.

Chapter 5: Cut the spending. Cut the waste, fraud, welfare. Drug test welfare recipients, make it short term unless elderly or disabled. Put people to work which will increase tax revenue. Quit letting China and OPEC steal from us.

Chapter 6: Strengthen American Muscle. He says “Your civil liberties mean nothing if you are dead. That’s why the single most important function of the government is national security.”

A. American interests come first.
B. Maximum firepower and military preparedness.
C. Only go to war to win.
D. Stay loyal to your friends and suspicious of your enemies.
E. Keep the technological sword razor sharp.
F. Prepare for threats before they materialize.
G. Respect and support our present and past warriors.

That is as far as I have read so far but later chapters include immigration and repealing Obamacare.

42 posted on 7/24/2015, 8:59:24 PM by Amntn

270 posted on 07/25/2015 6:30:04 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TomasUSMC

The big question is if Trump comes out ProChoice... will Conservatives vote for him.

He has already “come out” as Pro-Life, multiple times in various interviews. Where have you been?


271 posted on 07/25/2015 6:30:08 PM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS!)
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To: tennmountainman

Mighty “brave” of you to post this nonsense with a hit and run.

You posted this nonsense. Why don’t you hang around and join the
conversation on the thread you created instead of hiding.


Pick up the “eat crow” phone on post 238.

I doubt if you apologize.


272 posted on 07/25/2015 6:30:56 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased mindNo excuses ons.)
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To: Windflier; MinuteGal

You purists...
And there I was, nodding along in agreement with you, until that moment.

Well then I guess you will have to revise and amend your opinion, lol. Lost you by the use of a word that fits perfectly in my response. Purely yours, flaglady.


273 posted on 07/25/2015 6:33:06 PM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS!)
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To: Jim Robinson

But Cruz is socking it to the leftists in our party leadership, and that is truly what has been lacking in any candidate but him and Sarah.

Trump will abandon us when it gets close to the finish line.


274 posted on 07/25/2015 6:34:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: flaglady47
Trump has contributed financially to both republicans and democrats. I said Trump did not speak out in defense of Cruz when he was getting hit from all sides for "shutting down the goverment" when he was trying to de-fund Obamacare.
275 posted on 07/25/2015 6:35:04 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: laplata

Why would I apologize?

He posts one more comment and then runs away again.

This Freeper does not want to have a conversation. He is a control freak
who wants to lecture. And leave the dirty work to those like you.

He is a hit and runner.


276 posted on 07/25/2015 6:36:22 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: Albion Wilde

“Their recommendations helped us lose every election for the past decade.”

Bingo. C’est vrai.


277 posted on 07/25/2015 6:36:34 PM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS!)
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To: PAR
“purist” (a/k/a trolling progressive)

I don't know where you got that definition, but it's not the way the term is used here.

The term 'purist' was originally spat at we Freepers who refused to follow the liberal pied piper known as Mitt Romney, in 2012.

We were actually accused of treason to the country, because we chose to stand by our conservative convictions when most others were being terrified into throwing theirs out the window to support the 'lesser evil'.

278 posted on 07/25/2015 6:36:46 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: flaglady47

“Go tell that to your fellow Freepers, many of whom every other day are threatening to go third party. And I believe many of them would actually do it, or, in the alternative, and much worse, just stay home and not vote.”

Many have been doing that (voting 3rd part or not voting at all) since I have been here. This is one of the reasons we have Obama now.

“Trump is doing a political bluff, and it will make the GOPe have to be careful just how vitriolic they get towards him, and it’s been pretty bad already.”

If you are smart and/or perceptive enough to know it is a bluff then so is the GOP, in which case their behavior would not be modified. A bluff is only effective if the entity being bluffed believes there is sufficient probability that the bluff isn’t in fact a bluff. If you/I/anyone conclude that there is sufficient credibility behind Trump’s bluff that the GOP’s behavior would be altered, then Trump’s selfish willingness to throw the election to the democrat’s makes him unsuitable NOW to be a viable Republican candidate. Think it through.


279 posted on 07/25/2015 6:37:10 PM PDT by PAR
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To: laplata

I don’t need advice from a noobie, squishy troll like you.


280 posted on 07/25/2015 6:38:09 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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