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Ted Cruz: ‘Star Trek’s Captain Kirk was probably a Republican
MSNBC.com ^
| 7/24/2015
| Benjamin Landy
Posted on 07/24/2015 10:38:00 AM PDT by GoneSalt
Texas Sen. Ted Cruz offered some surprisingly strong opinions on the politics of Star Trek in an interview published Thursday in The New York Times Magazine, arguing it is quite likely that Kirk is a Republican and Picard is a Democrat.
Let me do a little psychoanalysis, Cruz says when asked about the fictional space captains from the landmark 1960s television series and its Next Generation follow-up, which aired some 30 years later. If you look at Star Trek: The Next Generation, it basically split James T. Kirk into two people. Picard was Kirks rational side, and William Riker was his passionate side. I prefer a complete captain. To be effective, you need both heart and mind.
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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; election2016; kirk; tedcruz; texas
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To: GoneSalt
41
posted on
07/24/2015 11:13:36 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: blueunicorn6
The tribbles were illegal aliens.
They were smuggled aboard, gave birth to more illegals, ate all the food, and overran all of the ship's support systems.
But the tribbles eventually all got deported!
-PJ
42
posted on
07/24/2015 11:13:43 AM PDT
by
Political Junkie Too
(If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
To: GoneSalt
Harry Mudd was a typical Democrat.
43
posted on
07/24/2015 11:13:54 AM PDT
by
yarddog
(Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
To: GoneSalt
He screwed women like a libertine.
44
posted on
07/24/2015 11:15:57 AM PDT
by
PGR88
To: wally_bert; Old Sarge; null and void; Nachum; LucyT; greeneyes; Marcella; Lurker; ...
Quark was the 'Trump' of DS9! But his observation of 'Hew-mons' was so very perceptive! He may have been a fictional character, but this is one of the truest statement I have ever heard on 'Hew-mon' behavior:
"Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)" (1998)
Quark: "Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes."
45
posted on
07/24/2015 11:18:01 AM PDT
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: Kartographer
Decking Q was one of the few good Sisko moments until Season 5. When he went off on vacation, encountered a late 20th Century TV series called “Spencer for Hire” and got so inspired by Hawk that he shaved his head, grew a goatee, and returned to the station fully manned-up and with the only warship Starfleet ever tried to build
To: GoneSalt
Star Trek in the 60s was a fun adventure series with, as Cruz says, working class "lunch pail" military types, doing a job on the frontier. Kirk standing there holding the constitution in that one episodes and holding it in reverance is good enough evidence to me which side he was on.
On the other hand, in the 80s the producers felt that it was best to remove all conflict, that we'd all be automaton agents of the massive state and thus no conflict in our "perfected" society would occur. This has two sins. First, it's a scary concept that people would all just be robots without differences. Second, it's TERRIBLE writing that results in boring speechifying. So yeah, TNG is a democrat dream of a lifeless, boring society where people are not allowed to take risks that aren't sanctioned by the state or even to hold opinions of their own. A bunch of mindless holodeck slaves under the rule of a few hand picked elites who know what's best for them. Yep, Democrat ideal society alright.
47
posted on
07/24/2015 11:23:12 AM PDT
by
pepsi_junkie
(Who is John Galt?)
To: OttawaFreeper
You are NOT of the body...
48
posted on
07/24/2015 11:25:27 AM PDT
by
Lx
(Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
To: Leaning Right
Doohan got a finger shot off on D-Day. They filmed Star Trek in such a way as you wouldn't notice. But occasionally you could tell.
49
posted on
07/24/2015 11:26:02 AM PDT
by
henkster
(Where'd my tagline go?)
To: pepsi_junkie
Captain James T. Kirk was the American naval officer or divisional commander who won World War 2.
Jean Luc Picard is a late 20th Century bureaucrat chairing a committee.
50
posted on
07/24/2015 11:28:21 AM PDT
by
henkster
(Where'd my tagline go?)
To: cripplecreek
Scottie was an engineer.
Engineers, by definition, must be logical.
Excepting those Muzzies who go into the field to learn how to make bombs, fly airplanes into buildings and things of that sort.
51
posted on
07/24/2015 11:29:36 AM PDT
by
Vigilanteman
(Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
To: cripplecreek
Don’t miss post #49 either. I knew there were additional reasons I liked Scottie.
52
posted on
07/24/2015 11:32:25 AM PDT
by
Vigilanteman
(Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
To: wally_bert; Old Sarge; null and void; Nachum; LucyT; greeneyes; Marcella; Lurker; ...
A translation for those who don't understand:
"Let me tell you something about Hew-mons Americans, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites Internet, TV and Video Games are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic hot showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon Islamist. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes."
53
posted on
07/24/2015 11:32:46 AM PDT
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: Jeff Chandler
Shatner has Dobermanns.
Stewart has cats.
54
posted on
07/24/2015 11:32:57 AM PDT
by
Salamander
(We're ALL Dixie, now.)
To: GoneSalt
Shatner is a Canadian-I don’t think he is an American citizen-but the character James Tiberius Kirk is most definitely conservative-and seriously badass-Shatner played him that way, and so does the new guy, Chris Pine in the new ST movies. Kirk is one of my fav heroes of fiction.
Picard had his moments, but they were few and far between-mostly he made me wonder how he ever got a ship’s command at all, never mind the flagship...
55
posted on
07/24/2015 11:34:03 AM PDT
by
Texan5
("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
To: Texan5
Loved DS9, and I miss it.. I bet Morn is a Freeper!
To: blueunicorn6
Well, the democrat voters, not the democrat “ruling class”.
57
posted on
07/24/2015 11:39:45 AM PDT
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
To: henkster
No one considered whether there was any meat on those things...
58
posted on
07/24/2015 11:40:14 AM PDT
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
To: Texan5
From episode 1 of TNG, I thought they had the wrong captain. Should have been Riker.
59
posted on
07/24/2015 11:41:08 AM PDT
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
To: Texan5
I was always amazed at how they pushed communism in that show and yet some people are significantly more equal.
Not to mention the poor red shirts.
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posted on
07/24/2015 11:41:23 AM PDT
by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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